the server, loot and the way things are

[Dach]

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which leaders? The ones that aren't getting the 5 big targets? I won't speak for DA, but I doubt they would give targets to smaller guilds.

Originally Posted by Acillatem
So for the past month or so I've been talking to various guilds about a "Calendar Alliance". Vesica Dei, The Mystical Order, Divinity, Blackwater, Darkwind, Bregan D'Aerth, Peace Pipe, Dark Ascension, yes even IB. All guilds capable of doing at the very least planar raids, some minibosses, and some the big boys.

All at the very least "interested" in seeing an alternative to poopsocking. Or an alternative to the constant friction on the server.

[Ponden]

Lol. Easy snipes. Also, the only friction I ever see is between DA and IB. I don't think I've ever been contested with Divinity or Darkwind for any mobs. We generally are never in the same zone together. And it is funny you say that about IB, because I don't think we would give a single target to anyone that can't mobilize and out-pull us. DA gets some, we get some. At least they put up a competitive nature.

[Kassel]

There is more friction, like that one unamed guild who sits out side the fear portal until others zone in and break it then they decide its a good idea to waltz in, not that a fear break is hard, but come on thats just weak.

Perhaps you also recall that one day were there was 101 people in fear with no gods up. Shit be crowded!! We need kunark !

[Ponden]

If you have to wait for another guild to break fear, you shouldn't be there.

[Kassel]

If you have to wait for another guild to break fear, you shouldn't be there.

I AGREE !!

But thats now how things work on this server.

[Ponden]

Right, and the guilds who rely on another guild to break in rarely, if ever, will get a Draco or CT kill. That is a fact.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have to wait for another guild to break fear, you shouldn't be there.

This pretty much sums up this thread lol.

And its nice to see the top guilds actually agreeing on something.

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Easy snipes. Also, the only friction I ever see is between DA and IB. I don't think I've ever been contested with Divinity or Darkwind for any mobs. We generally are never in the same zone together. And it is funny you say that about IB, because I don't think we would give a single target to anyone that can't mobilize and out-pull us. DA gets some, we get some. At least they put up a competitive nature.

That is a stupid statement about DA/IB...

If you don't give a target, I'm going to train you. Period. Because I go by the mentality of if my guild can't have this encounter no one is going to have it. Seeing as none of you subscribe to malicious behavior in a raid zone in order to obtain a target you're going to ride the petition system to get this accomplished.

I remember not-so-long ago, Reign was clearing fear for Draco and I bugged the mobs pathing out so they would have to spend another hour clearing mobs and re-adjusting themselves for the pull. I then aggro'd the ammy temple by tagging the fire ring and running back to Reign's pull spot and wiping the entire guild.

At that point in time I could've easily zerged in a guild and have had them take draco while everyone else was frantically trying to get rezzed by the one cleric they managed to camp out. In essence I out-competed Reign by wiping their presence from the zone with a single level 46 druid.

So it's stupid to say that because you "mobilize" faster you deserve the mobs, I train harder and I am more malicious so I can get the mobs if GM's wouldn't throw banhammers for that behavior.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Abacab *****h [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At that point in time I could've easily zerged in a guild and have had them take draco while everyone else was frantically trying to get rezzed by the one cleric they managed to camp out. In essence I out-competed Reign by wiping their presence from the zone with a single level 46 druid.

Awww, kind of like a fucked-up Robin Hood. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Awww, kind of like a fucked-up Robin Hood. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, people forget that strong arming bullshit only works if smaller guilds allow themselves to be subservient. Larger guilds only dominate the content on this server because of two factors:

1. Large guilds have the ability to set multiple people in set zones for hours at a time making it 10x easier to phone 20 or so people and have them pop up at the target in 5 minutes
2. Large guilds tend to be rule nazi; religiously spouting off server rules as it benefits them, and are quick to dick rub authorities if something doesn't go their way

As a smaller guild they try to scare you into "if you make a move on us we'll have you banned" as the larger guild continually juggernauts their way through encounters using exploits and rule of fear on their competition.

One thing though, larger guilds are 15x easier to train than a smaller guild, they're a gigantic target that bounces aggro off itself every fraction of a second. Catching them off guard with several mobs is a guaranteed wipe and a 1 hr CR as they try to rez their zerg force back into operation