8th Ring // Cloki

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swish knows what he's talking about because he's never had a level 60 character and doesn't even play on Blue

Attack the ideas not the person

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Attack the ideas not the person

Did that for like a year. Spin machine too strong, idiot information perpetuates itself through people like Swish who just read this board and think they've become educated on the inner workings of elf blue ninety super game

[Kekephee]

I mean ultimately isn't what you're doing just trolling blue server and stirring up shit so people will think the raid scene is worse than it is and go red? I just assume that's your goal

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean ultimately isn't what you're doing just trolling blue server and stirring up shit so people will think the raid scene is worse than it is and go red? I just assume that's your goal

Nope, this started long before I quit blue. I like Chest's revisionist history attempts but we were all there.

[Kekephee]

This is all dumb and irrelevant anyway, because isn't this supposed to be a Cloki thread? I don't have much to say about him, I think he's from Wisconsin

[Swish]

If he hasn't got to compete with Rampage/Forsaken, you know he'll choose not to.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If he hasn't got to compete with Rampage/Forsaken, you know he'll choose not to.

Let's get one thing straight, no one is competing with Rampage right now. They physically broke Forsaken over their knee after the first few weeks of Velious. I mean BDA beat Forsaken to a Nexona kill in VP the other day. It's the end of days!

Rampage is rolling sometimes 70 deep at American prime time when they're going after big ticket dragons in NToV. Taken and BDA roll with probably something like 30-50 depending on the raid and how long you give us to mobilize. You're only getting 24-30 BDA on a batphone, barely 24 if it's a weird time of the day for us. Forsaken probably runs close to that range too, but they're better geared from being in VP for years prior.

Asgard runs with less than those 3, but are super sharp at Kunark targets when given enough prep time. Their Trak kill last Friday was ballsy and successful. After that you see HK in HoT with maybe 30 max but that's the only thing I've seen them do.

Divinity only comes out for WToV trash and WToV dragons based on my experience with them, but they get between 30 and 40 when they prep ahead of time.

I have no idea what Gimpatron is doing. I haven't seen them at any of our Velious, Kunark/old world, or VP targets. I'm sure they still run pretty deep when you have three guilds.

So, back to the point, no BDA isn't ready to compete with Rampage. Our current competition is Rampage on a few VP targets when they care, Taken sometimes, Asgard sometimes, and Forsaken when they get their shit back together and start contesting targets again.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's get one thing straight, no one is competing with Rampage right now. They physically broke Forsaken over their knee after the first few weeks of Velious. I mean BDA beat Forsaken to a Nexona kill in VP the other day. It's the end of days!

Rampage is rolling sometimes 70 deep at American prime time when they're going after big ticket dragons in NToV. Taken and BDA roll with probably something like 30-50 depending on the raid and how long you give us to mobilize. You're only getting 24-30 BDA on a batphone, barely 24 if it's a weird time of the day for us. Forsaken probably runs close to that range too, but they're better geared from being in VP for years prior.

Asgard runs with less than those 3, but are super sharp at Kunark targets when given enough prep time. Their Trak kill last Friday was ballsy and successful. After that you see HK in HoT with maybe 30 max but that's the only thing I've seen them do.

Divinity only comes out for WToV trash and WToV dragons based on my experience with them, but they get between 30 and 40 when they prep ahead of time.

I have no idea what Gimpatron is doing. I haven't seen them at any of our Velious, Kunark/old world, or VP targets. I'm sure they still run pretty deep when you have three guilds.

So, back to the point, no BDA isn't ready to compete with Rampage. Our current competition is Rampage on a few VP targets when they care, Taken sometimes, Asgard sometimes, and Forsaken when they get their shit back together and start contesting targets again.

Stop squirming... would you go to C or R if there were was a Kunark style split?

[bktroost]

Go listen to 40-46 minutes into Sirken's last Europa stream. There at least one staff member that is not opposed to reinstating a rotation with VP in it.

[bktroost]

I think that goes to a higher question then because any time that there is one guild dominating content then we end up in that same situation that we were in with TMO dominating content.

I think the major difference is that Velious content is not race content like Kunark is right? I really am just speculating, but can a guild kill all the dragons in NToV before you get Zlandicar and some other first brood? If so, doesn't that leave Tormax and Dain and Idol available? All of those are things that most people can't handle and would be available to Forsaken, Rampage, Taken and BDA.