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Old 09-01-2015, 01:14 PM
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Or anyone could jump on live, go let vyemm beat on them for 10 minutes, and then take the amount of rounds he does, divided by the duration of the log in seconds, and there's your attack speed.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:16 PM
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Tried, was down on Xegony and Test.
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Or anyone could jump on live, go let vyemm beat on them for 10 minutes, and then take the amount of rounds he does, divided by the duration of the log in seconds, and there's your attack speed.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:54 PM
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Heres another resource that says max hit is 1190, dated 10/22/2001
http://room369.sakura.ne.jp/eq/perso...diary0110.html

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Lord Vyemm - Temple Veeshan of Vulak'Aerr and No.1 is a monarch in the Dragon, is said to be vying for the seat of the No.2 Dragon. And damage of Max 1190, AE Knockback + have combined Graviflux, not amusing even if just said that the strongest its power. Vane is 6 Party in the Dragon called need 60 people from 45 people to win, will challenge in about 36 people. (It can be said only also not enough people (sweat))
The time required for the ...... 3 hours or more Pull. The difficulty is I have that would have been blown away until the valley bottom of the Temple of Veeshan by intense Knockback.
PS: thats google translate.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:23 PM
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May have been posted earlier.

August 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10890
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NToV is quite entertaining... there aren't many actually _hard_ dragons (meaning significantly harder than say Tormax or Yelinak). Really once you learn them and are equipped well enough you can 30man Ikatiar, Eashen, Aaryonar, Feshlak, Mirinella, Koi'doken, Sevalak, Cekenar, Jorlleag, Zlexak, Nevederia... but that is sort of the idea and some of these dragons are far from trivial before you learn them (Aary and Zlexak especially, Neve to some degree). Kreizenn and Dagarn aren't difficult, but do need some melee power to take out (36-42 certainly, but I doubt 30). Vyemm is the most difficult one, though it needs some brains to figure out and I'm sure it'll be a lot less fun when it's well posted where are the best places to fight it etc. Still, quad 1190 is nothing to scoff at and your agro control better be good, since him turning around a lot is something you do NOT want to see

Still I would probably be gone for EQ had NToV not pulled me in for the final challenge. What worries me is that a lot of guilds are 'finishing' Velious too early. We've killed everything short of Ventani (might be capable, but not interested looking at what BotS got for their troubles) and Tunare and the farm rounds of ToV are getting trivial (one wipesized loss during the whole raid to a misplaced Vyemm who died within 30 minutes of the wipe). Sure the loot is godly, but such a great amount drops every clear and farming for what.. 3-4 months really isn't my idea of fun :/
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:02 PM
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We've been given logs from several raid mobs of them attacking for a decent amount of time. We can use these to determine the correct attack speed values for the mobs. Hopefully nothing has changed much.
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:14 PM
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Here is a list of the stats of the NTOV mobs my guild used in velious, then in Luclin. It was updated throughout the timeline so it might not be 100% accurate.

Name: Eashen of the Sky
HP: Estimated 100K
AE: Wave of Heat / Wave of Cold (200 dmg / 350 dmg)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): ? / ?
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: No
Baneable: No
Misc: Need Fire and Cold resists, all types of nukes land.

Name: Ikatiar the Venom
HP: Estimated 100K
AE: None
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 750 / 500
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: No
Baneable: No
Misc: All nukes land, no resists needed.

Name: Aaryonar
HP: Estimated 350K
AE: Cloud of Disempowerment (Mana drain, ATK debuff, 500 HP DoT)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 900 / 550
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need high MR, all nukes land to my knowledge.

Name: Lord Feshlak
HP: Estimated 200K
AE: Wave of Cold / Wave of Heat (350 dmg / 200 dmg)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 960 / 640
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need Fire and Cold resists.

Name: Dagarn the Destroyer
HP: Estimated 200K
AE: Rain of Molten Lava / Wave of Heat (300dmg / 200dmg)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 754 / 504
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: Yes
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: No
Misc: Need Fire resists.

Name: Lord Kriezenn
HP: Estimated 200K
AE: 250dmg + Stun
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 950 / 560
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: No
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need Cold resist, his AE also has a 1 second stun component as well as DD.

Name: Jorlleag
HP: Estimated 200K
AE: Frost Breath (500 Max dmg, Dispells 1 buff)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 925 / 550
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: No
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: No
Misc: Need cold resist, all Fire nukes land. Cast CH I believe, and gate. (correct me if I am wrong).

Name: Lady Nevederia
HP: Estimated 350K
AE: Bellowing Winds (Stun, 750 dmg DoT over 3 ticks)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 900 / 525
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: No
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need high MR resist, all nukes lands.

Name: Cekenar
HP: Estimated 150K
AE: Electric Blast (275 HP DD, 175 mana drain)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): ? / ?
D/T/Q: ?
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: ?
Misc: Need magic resist. Very easy dragon.

Name: Sevelak
HP: Estimated 100K
AE: Chaotic Weightlessness (GFlux nuke)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 600 / ? (Unsure)
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: No
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: No?
Misc: Need magic resist. Very easy dragon.

Name: Zlexak
HP: Estimated 66K
AE: Diseased Cloud (1250 DD, 55% slow)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): ? / ?
D/T/Q: ?
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: ?
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: No
Misc: Need high Disease resist.

Name: Lady Mirenella
HP: Estimated 150K
AE: Cloud of Fear (Silence for a short time, few seconds, 300 HP DoT in 2 ticks)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): ? / ?
D/T/Q: ?
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: ?
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need magic resist.

Name: Lord Koi`Doken
HP: Estimated 150K
AE: Tsunami (400 dmg + 1 second stun)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): ? / ?
D/T/Q: ?
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: ?
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: No
Misc: Need cold resist.

Name: Lord Vyemm
HP: Estimated 350K
AE: Screams of Chaos (Knockback, some sort of DD)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 1190 / 690
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: No
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes (Diseased based)
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need magic resist.

Name: Vulak`Aerr
HP: Estimated 500K+
AE: Ancient Breath (250 dmg + 40% slow)
Max Hit (Without Defensive | W/ Defensive): 950 / ? (Unsure)
D/T/Q: Quad
Rampage: No
Flurry: Yes
Enrage: Yes
Slowable: Yes
Baneable: Yes
Misc: Need magic resist. Needs to be sieved for gate.
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:34 PM
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either dragon regen in general is very, very high here, or those hp values are much different than what they currently are

pretty sure our parses end up having 300k+ melee damage alone on every single one of those mobs listed

vyemm had 92% hp after 78k melee damage over 100 seconds the other night
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:16 PM
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Was a response to previous poster.

I'm in a agreement that something is a little off on the fight. Still leaning towards attack speed.
I would contend it's the attack speed, too.

I don't think the minor difference between 1250 and 1190 would make that much of a difference overall. Even quad or triples wouldn't matter much with the amount of patches we have dumping into the tanks in between CHs. Any of our tanks can handle those differences in defensive.

The problem seems to lie with how often he's hitting.

I guess we just need to find him up on another server.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:27 PM
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I've been looking into why some are reporting 1190 and some 1200. Either Vyemm was changed at some point during Velious, or we are missing some factor such as warriors having an innate mitigation. The 5% innate mitigation that was patched into the game for warriors in December of 2003 would explain this if it was applied to the DB instead of the DI (200 * .95 = 190 + (50 * 20 = 1000) = 1190. It would also be explained if Warriors some how had a 1% innate mitigation to DI (50 + .99 = 49.5 * 20 = 990 + 200 = 1190).

For right now we will leave it at 1200, as that has more evidence supporting it with the other damage intervals we are seeing being divisible by 50.
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