All of you: Please vote for Donald Trump

[Lojik]

I don't disagree about defense spending needing to be cut, but good luck getting a candidate elected who runs on that platform: too many people work either for the dod or some subcontracting firm.

As far as the other things, higher corporate tax rates just mean businesses relocate elsewhere, and a lot of what makes outsourcing so profitable is that unions here priced themselves out of a lot of international labor markets. How many American sailors these days? How many shipping companies incorporated in the usa?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't disagree about defense spending needing to be cut, but good luck getting a candidate elected who runs on that platform: too many people work either for the dod or some subcontracting firm.

As far as the other things, higher corporate tax rates just mean businesses relocate elsewhere, and a lot of what makes outsourcing so profitable is that unions here priced themselves out of a lot of international labor markets. How many American sailors these days? How many shipping companies incorporated in the usa?

Yeah, no. Not every state has unions, yet for some reason companies in states even without them still outsource every chance they get.

Unions are not the cause you are looking for. It's just a buzzword. You probably have too much Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh in your life.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yet for some reason companies in states even without them still outsource every chance they get.

Examples? Let's see if we can figure this out together ^^

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Examples? Let's see if we can figure this out together ^^

Dell.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dell.

Where are they based and to what unionized state do they outsource to?

[nhdjoseywales]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Examples? Let's see if we can figure this out together ^^

Stream which was owned by Bain Capital took a lot of jobs from Memphis TN, a right to work state and non union too and shipped them to india. A couple hundred of us lost our jobs and flooded the memphis area with high talent tech workers which only further drove down wages here.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't disagree about defense spending needing to be cut, but good luck getting a candidate elected who runs on that platform: too many people work either for the dod or some subcontracting firm.

As far as the other things, higher corporate tax rates just mean businesses relocate elsewhere, and a lot of what makes outsourcing so profitable is that unions here priced themselves out of a lot of international labor markets. How many American sailors these days? How many shipping companies incorporated in the usa?

It's part of a lax tax code that refuses to pursue tax evasion. If you do business in the USA, you should pay US taxes, whether you are incorporated here or in the Virgin Islands. Whether outsourcing was profitable or not shouldn't matter; companies that outsourced should have been penalized, not subsidized. In instances where free market forces are harmful to all but the oligarchy, the government should step in. Unfortunately, financial institutions are this century's railroad companies and oil/mineral tycoons, and they own the government.

Believe it or not, there are places where the government isn't owned by corporations, and business still thrives.

Just look at what Toby Abbott is doing to Australia, bringing American style politics to their system. The entire country is regressing and spiraling into the gutter while mining and energy companies line their pockets. It's fucking disgusting.

[Patriam1066]

https://www.opensecrets.org/politici...&cid=n00000019

We can expect some excellent socialistic policies from her I bet. Being a wholly owned subsidiary of banks is great!!!!!

And Lune, imma let you finish, but Japan's economy is based on selling us products, and Australia's was based on exporting copper and iron to China during their massive construction boom. Neither country has been anything other than centrist.

Switzerland is what I'd like to have. A government that is pretty much a joke other than public transportation, maternity leave, etc. in other words, local essentials. Everything else there can happen through a national referendum. They're pretty centrist.
Left wing and right wing suck ass. When you stop making smart decisions because of your emotionally held beliefs, you're an idiot. Look at democrats fighting uber. Look at republicans fighting Tesla's direct sale model. Both are done for reasons that aren't actually beneficial to the American consumer.

[Samoht]

Federal minimum wage != unions

[Charlievox]

The scariest thing about The Donald, is that he makes Koch Brothers sock puppet Scott Walker appear to be almost sentient by comparison.