An open letter from <Forsaken>

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wut?

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I'm curious how you think this isn't exactly what I said in the OP....

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whole new structure, dkp system

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious how you think this isn't exactly what I said in the OP....

Detoxx, is it a whole new DKP system or are we carrying over up to 250 points?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Detoxx, is it a whole new DKP system or are we carrying over up to 250 points?

A whole new DKP system. TMO was full loot council, we are not. Corova is the leader of TMO, I was not, aka new leadership.

[Samoht]

Oh, nice with the confirmation that they carried over up to 250dkp there Detoxx.

[Lazie]

Thanks for confirming Chest that this is a new guild. Also you know Shinko better than anyone. You know most of his ideas are a joke. People discussing that going to Class R to get people accustomed to guild leadership and structure is not people conspiring to do bad things. It's a reasonable discussion.

[Joyelle]

With as many times as TMO members have threatened to form up a new guild solely to shit on class R guilds, are you REALLY surprised people don't trust you?

Perhaps you shouldn't have cried wolf. Your story might be a little more believable if you guys hadn't acted like total shitbags in the past.

Good on you for your new RnF gag order though- I think that, given time might help some people forget the damage you guys have caused to the server. Some of us won't ever forget though no matter what words are inbetween the brackets over your heads.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With as many times as TMO members have threatened to form up a new guild solely to shit on class R guilds, are you REALLY surprised people don't trust you?

Listen, I'm not going to sit here and debate what people should and shouldn't say in troll posts or threads in the RNF section of this website. People have all used that forum in the past at some point to troll. I don't remember Detoxx making those threats. Nor do I recall Swage or other current officers of Forsaken making those threats.

I for one told the officers we should go directly Class C when Class R was being discussed. They gave me the valid reasons why the decision was made and it was discussed our plan with the authorities of P99. As many of you have pointed out in different forums. Class R mobs are on a rotation. There is no way a Class C member base could enter and troll Class R and "Stomp on the Class R guilds". They rotate. Forsaken wouldn't spend their time trying to troll you guys when all you have to do is take the mobs off they are not locked out on and wait your turn as usual.

[Zapatos]

ya'll are doing silent bid dkp? head's up, that's setting up a future of internal drama! Players can trick each other into wiping out their entire dkp horde and that kills motivation to want to play anymore. Plus it only takes one corrupt person handling bids to be like "hey buddy, tip X amount plus 1 if you want to win"

Sorry for injecting here, just saw that and it brought back bad memories. Carry on!

[reborn649]

If a dkp system has a sign on bonus for anyone who joins, alumni or new to level the playing field and it is a dkp bidding system versus a pure loot council. How is that not new?

If 80% of your leadership is brand new and the 20% previously were in a leadership role in an old guild but doing a totally new role as leaders in a new guild, how is this not new?

Perhaps I am missing something here, but it seems pretty black and white to me.

On a side note to Joyelle. You have every right to believe that and in a large way I completely understand the stigma TMO carried with it and their idle threats to go to R. You need to meet us halfway and realize that the majority of those people who carried the stigma are either not with us or have chosen to bite their tongues and just enjoy playing the game. Within every guild there is going to be people who stir up trouble and then the large sum of people (aka server) thinks it is the guild as a whole. After playing p99 for many years now, I find this to literally never be the case. Forsaken is mainly comprised of the people who are sick of the toxic environment/reputation and wanted to get away from it as far as possible, but during the course of that a rule was apparently broken. If it stands, its fine and we will take it on the chin and move on. If it clears, we will still move onto C as originally planned and hold our heads up high. Were not here to stir pots, were here to have fun with people that give a damn about the other people they play the game with.

[bullproofmonk]

Serve out your time, and come back strong.

A setback for sure, but at least it's summer!