Sir Lucan D'Lere - FTE or Camp?

[bktroost]

Interesting thoughts going on here. Assume I've been trying to get/ keep Sir Lucan for 2 days straight, waking up at weird hours and trying to get the force and the fte but losing it to other guilds. I've been working and patiently attempting to get this mob for over 48 hours. I log in 15 minutes before hand and sit there invis waiting for him to pop. Who has priority? The guy who waited 30 minutes because he didn't know the timer or the one who has actively been working to track it and get fte for 48 hours?


This exact situation happened twice with phinny and BDA. They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

98% of the server wants to be horrible, 1.4% just wants to play by the agreed upon rules and .6% is unaware of the way the server is done and petitions everything.

[Nightbear]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

Ha, wow that's low down.

[Tsalarioth]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

98% of the server wants to be horrible, 1.4% just wants to play by the agreed upon rules and .6% is unaware of the way the server is done and petitions everything.

I'd say most of the server are of the helpful, generous sort, and this sort of nastiness and cutthroat competition only occurs at the highest of the high end(which tends to be the most vocal).

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This exact situation happened twice with phinny and BDA. They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

That's a load of shit.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a load of shit.

It is what it is. If it's a competitive camp then that's what it is. No shame in it, we all just adapt.

[Merekai]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting thoughts going on here. Assume I've been trying to get/ keep Sir Lucan for 2 days straight, waking up at weird hours and trying to get the force and the fte but losing it to other guilds. I've been working and patiently attempting to get this mob for over 48 hours. I log in 15 minutes before hand and sit there invis waiting for him to pop. Who has priority? The guy who waited 30 minutes because he didn't know the timer or the one who has actively been working to track it and get fte for 48 hours?


This exact situation happened twice with phinny and BDA. They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

98% of the server wants to be horrible, 1.4% just wants to play by the agreed upon rules and .6% is unaware of the way the server is done and petitions everything.

BDA SCUM!

Chev

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting thoughts going on here. Assume I've been trying to get/ keep Sir Lucan for 2 days straight, waking up at weird hours and trying to get the force and the fte but losing it to other guilds. I've been working and patiently attempting to get this mob for over 48 hours. I log in 15 minutes before hand and sit there invis waiting for him to pop. Who has priority? The guy who waited 30 minutes because he didn't know the timer or the one who has actively been working to track it and get fte for 48 hours?


This exact situation happened twice with phinny and BDA. They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

98% of the server wants to be horrible, 1.4% just wants to play by the agreed upon rules and .6% is unaware of the way the server is done and petitions everything.

Was present for this exact situation with BDA at the time. Dirty cutthroat playing which enables us to play the same way to compete as necessary. (strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same)

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was present for this exact situation with BDA at the time. Dirty cutthroat playing which enables us to play the same way to compete as necessary. (strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same)

The only way to break the cycle is for established leadership to slap some wrists, as we see here. If you just choose to not compete That way then the opposition recognizes that they are uncontested due to their show of force and therefore, success is dependent on maintaining It.

Problems arise, however, when leadership chooses to enforce rules based on emotional ties to circumstances. Such as guild X or player Z really needs this and your guild, etc. is stronger, so you need It less.

Also, If rules are not applied to all the mobs in that scenario consistently then people just migrate their tactics to a new one.

[Rajahten]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting thoughts going on here. Assume I've been trying to get/ keep Sir Lucan for 2 days straight, waking up at weird hours and trying to get the force and the fte but losing it to other guilds. I've been working and patiently attempting to get this mob for over 48 hours. I log in 15 minutes before hand and sit there invis waiting for him to pop. Who has priority? The guy who waited 30 minutes because he didn't know the timer or the one who has actively been working to track it and get fte for 48 hours?


This exact situation happened twice with phinny and BDA. They had a few people that would try to lock it down and if they knew you were there or you sent them a tell otherwise they brought in more people to train sea horses back and forth until they were ready to pull and would drop them on you...

98% of the server wants to be horrible, 1.4% just wants to play by the agreed upon rules and .6% is unaware of the way the server is done and petitions everything.

It's as simple as this. If you're a Paladin and you need this for epic -Camp the mob and if you're there first and you know when Lucan is going to spawn, call a GM. Have your guys ready to engage. Moregan sat there with me until he spawned and witnessed the snipe.

If you want the soulfire for your non-paladin because your clerics can't fucking do their job during a raid, and there are no Paladins present, then fight it out however you want. But leave Paladins alone. Hell, help them for once. I can't thank Indignation enough for their help.

Oh, and when you're done with Lucan part of epic, enjoy forking up 8-10k to the guy who poopsocks other Paladin epic pieces for profit. Revolting.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Rajahten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's as simple as this. If you're a Paladin and you need this for epic -Camp the mob and if you're there first and you know when Lucan is going to spawn, call a GM. Have your guys ready to engage. Moregan sat there with me until he spawned and witnessed the snipe.

If you want the soulfire for your non-paladin because your clerics can't fucking do their job during a raid, and there are no Paladins present, then fight it out however you want. But leave Paladins alone. Hell, help them for once. I can't thank Indignation enough for their help.

Oh, and when you're done with Lucan part of epic, enjoy forking up 8-10k to the guy who poopsocks other Paladin epic pieces for profit. Revolting.

Let me ask you a question. Why is your epic more important than the entire server's wizard, ranger and druid epic?

Because that's what you are saying. I appreciate your approach and the heart with which you are coming, but currently VS is only achievable by a CoTH on a tank to get FTE and self heal until a cleric gets called. Without self heals, it is impossible to get and keep FTE on VS, denying an entire guild the potential at 3 classes to get their epic.

If Soulfire was nerfed then everyone would have to change tactics and It becomes a different raid scene...again, the complaint is not with the people, it's with the staff.