Overcrowded

[douglas1999]

I can't believe Kunark was only out on live for about 7 months before Velious launched.. compared to.. what four years now here? With the population as knowledgeable as this too.

[Monty405]

Originally Posted by Lorian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you can hunt in poor xp/loot areas but people want to play the game feeling they are effective even if they ultimately are doing it for fun.

Although I agree that places like Mistmoore offer great ZEM and level ranges for groups I have to say that going on a waiting list for one, two or even three hours to *maybe* get a group invite if the list had been maintained or even honoured is not an effective use of time.

I would much rather hunt in large outdoor zones which can support several parties. Even though there may be no ZEM you can grab other lfg people and kill some stuff instead of all being on a single wait list to join that one group in mistmoore.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Well, we could actually ask for facts. As in actual numbers.

What was the avg prime time (5pm est - 2am est) population in March of 2012, 2013, and 2014 compared to 2015?

That would give us.... an objective answer.

(My data tech advisor, Raj, gives us a 33.33% -- repeating of course -- increase. There are roughly 400 more players online now than those years' avg. That is not insignificant.)

And those who are saying Velious will change things are either trolling, or really stupid. There are roughly 4,500 accounts dormant currently, all "waiting for Velious." After Velious is released, I estimate daily server pops will be around 7k

Should drop back down to our current 1200-1400 population within a year or two, tho

[Grizzled]

If you believe there needs to be more blue servers, there is one way to accomplish this.

Start your own server. Use p99 database. Pay for the hosting and bandwidth. And beg p99 staff to let it be an official second server. Iron out other details.

People seem to forget.p99 staff are a group of guys who want classic EQ as it was. Keeping people happy is second, or possibly lower on the list.

Me personally I dont see why they are so nice to peeps who rmt and multibox. Those people do not deserve to be here.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Grizzled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you believe there needs to be more blue servers, there is one way to accomplish this.

Start your own server. Use p99 database. Pay for the hosting and bandwidth. And beg p99 staff to let it be an official second server. Iron out other details.

People seem to forget.p99 staff are a group of guys who want classic EQ as it was. Keeping people happy is second, or possibly lower on the list.

Me personally I dont see why they are so nice to peeps who rmt and multibox. Those people do not deserve to be here.

Would they allow this? I might be interested in doing this if so.

[lodgedogg]

Im so tired of hearing people bitch about rmt and boxing let me give you a little nostalgia for you that shit all happened at launch and was not a bannable offence people actually used to use websites like ebay to do it. This is going to happen no matter what there is no way to shut it down and there never will be. Does it ruin the economy? of course, will it ever change? not at all people will always find a way to do it.

Now as for this Red server all i have been hearing is stay away from any noob zone with a high ZeM if you want to live is this true? Is it possible to get along on there starting this late and not want to /wrist every day from twinks ganking you just because youre rocking you cloth gear you found?

[Nirgon]

You need a classic timeline

The casuals are all 60 and very demanding

Come to red, where there's no variance, it isn't completely overfarmed (for now) and if you think you deserve content more than someone you can rally an army and try to take it

Inb4 Holo gets all the PDs (no one on the live timeline had 40+ PD kills pre-Velious, why is this a measure of success vs total failure for Kunark era)...

We don't get every Tranix or Ragefire etc... epic mobs are left up (Hi2u Verina Tomb)

Your solution is to learn to enjoy some pvp on a less than over farmed/over crowded server. It is no longer a ghost town as compared to before. Top pals have been working their asses off handing out epics as incentive to come play red... get yours.. you don't have to completely quit blue to do it. Within 2 months, I am sure you will want to stay.

Blue RNF is a snooze fest compared to the days of old. Red RNF is full of luls. Oh yeah no variance.

[Ravager]

It all comes down to poor game design. Half the content doesn't get used as it was intended. How many people here crawled Kedge? Cazic Thule? Grouped in Dagnor's? Did you know there's a named snake in Dagnor's that drops an instant heal/rune pot? Who goes to Dalnir other than to farm Crescent for their iksar monk alt? Who uses Chardok for anything other than ae exploits? Who uses Skyfire, EJ and TT for exp groups like they do OT, DL?

There's plenty of game world to support a much larger population, there's just not enough in it to incentivize straying from the beaten path, especially when everyone has instructions to get what they want in the fastest way possible.

Velious won't change things, it'll just shift the crowds from one place to another and over half the content will still be unused. Adding 30 zones to every expansion is what killed EQ. They should have instead focused on adding content to the world they already created.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's plenty of game world to support a much larger population, there's just not enough in it to incentivize straying from the beaten path, especially when everyone has instructions to get what they want in the fastest way possible.

This was a known issue on live, and they solved it (or at least tried to) with zone exp modifiers. I really wish the devs would consider adjusting those here (and then publicizing the changes) to increase the ZEM of un-used zones like Cazic Thule and Dagnor's and reduce the ZEM of zones like Unrest and Karnor's. Such a change would be 100% classic in spirit and could really help spread the population out.

[Duncon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was a known issue on live, and they solved it (or at least tried to) with zone exp modifiers. I really wish the devs would consider adjusting those here (and then publicizing the changes) to increase the ZEM of un-used zones like Cazic Thule and Dagnor's and reduce the ZEM of zones like Unrest and Karnor's. Such a change would be 100% classic in spirit and could really help spread the population out.

It would be even better if ZEM was dynamic and would change with the number of people in the zone or the length of time mobs stay up.

You see lots of folks in the zone you know the ZEM is low and it's time to look around. Never gunna happen, cause you know, not classic, but it is fun to theorize.