So monks got nerfed overall then.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by Rourk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Websters says you're wrong.

Anyway, back to shit that normal people care about:

Shaman slow is imperative on most fights (that it can land). Between Torpor, Malo, and Slow, they are indispensable in Velious. Pulling has nothing to do with ShamanS. They are a utility class with a strong emphasis on debuffs.

True the don't have to pull but they are constantly buffing/healing/canni/slowing Non stop tells. Its not for the faint of heart. So if you can't handle pulling you don't want to play a shaman. Play a wizard or a rogue.

[Gregor]

Lemme get this straight. The entire server is dominated by shaman for years(a problem which will only get worse in Velious) and they nerf rogue and warrior?

Rogue and Warrior are the most group nurturing classes ever, why give people reasons to quit them? And if grouping is such a big concern why are Wizards still so terrible at it?

[Buellen]

Nilbog:

" I'll keep making classic changes when I can, regardless if people threaten to quit. I'm here to recreate classic eq; not to make people happy."

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YES they have made some non classic for raid balance but overall they will try to get to true classic as ever and some cases this means nerving some classes as they did on live.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Buellen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nilbog:

" I'll keep making classic changes when I can, regardless if people threaten to quit. I'm here to recreate classic eq; not to make people happy.

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(Disclaimer: Not implying that Nilbog is a lady)

[derpcake]

meh, dat RNG

[falendar]

Originally Posted by Macha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This affected all melee classes, correct? Or is was the nerf only applied to Monks?
It would seem this nerfs rogues just as much no?

a large portion of rogue dmg is from bs, not reg attacks, so no this would affect rog very little.

[stakha]

Originally Posted by hammertime7795 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards will always be hax on this server since circle kiting is not done away with until pop but they need a lot of twinkage too.

Bards dont need to be twinked at all. It's easy to earn money w the class and gear yourself. My bard was my first char on the server and I've never felt undergeared. Bard only weapons are also very inexpensive for their strength. BiS droppable pair will only run around 6k, but that is far from necessary early on. Think I got them at 48 or so.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by falendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a large portion of rogue dmg is from bs, not reg attacks, so no this would affect rog very little.

If a rogue is double backstabbing for 500+500 (ish) each time, maybe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[falendar]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a rogue is double backstabbing for 500+500 (ish) each time, maybe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even without it max bsing, it is still a large part of their dps.

[Rayzor84]

Originally Posted by stakha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards dont need to be twinked at all. It's easy to earn money w the class and gear yourself. My bard was my first char on the server and I've never felt undergeared. Bard only weapons are also very inexpensive for their strength. BiS droppable pair will only run around 6k, but that is far from necessary early on. Think I got them at 48 or so.

Yeah I can't decide between bard and chanter. I mean, chanter are similar to Monks in that they have extremely defined roles in groups (crack, mez) which seems like it would be boring. Bards look versatile but I dunno. It sucks because I loved my monks role, I usually didn't even mind pulling for the most part. But after seeing that guy post about how raids go with monks and making them ineffective unless twinked, I really don't know.

To the guy who is mad about a monk soloing his MM and unrest mobs: yeah with a fungi this will happen with any melee class. I've had it happen to me all through unrest, MM, and HK by Rangers.