Would you donate for a new blue server?

[myriverse]

Considering maybe donating, if it'll get people to shut up about new server this and that.

But really... no. Just no.

[maestrom]

I would donate generously for the ability to view more than 10 posts per page on this forum.

I'm concerned that splitting the population would result in an empty server. If I were sure both servers would have healthy populations, I would absolutely donate for more servers.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would donate generously for the ability to view more than 10 posts per page on this forum.

I'm concerned that splitting the population would result in an empty server. If I were sure both servers would have healthy populations, I would absolutely donate for more servers.

Tiggles mentioned a couple times he had 20 posts per page. Not sure where that option went, but I didn't see it when I looked. Maybe after the forum was changed and then reverted, that option went away.

[Man0warr]

P99 would most likely become the empty one - and the two Class C guilds would slowly collapse or merge as their recruitment base would disappear.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 would most likely become the empty one - and the two Class C guilds would slowly collapse or merge as their recruitment base would disappear.

We would all just come to the Casual server and splinter into 18 separate guilds... for those rotations.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 would most likely become the empty one - and the two Class C guilds would slowly collapse or merge as their recruitment base would disappear.

I wonder why...

[skipdog]

I don't think people comprehend the drawbacks of splitting blue's population.

It means it will be harder for people to find groups. This is going to prevent people who come on this server to try things out, from staying for any reasonable amount of time.

I get that some class R guilds still aren't happy with their free pixels that they weren't even getting before, but that seems like an awful reason to split this server's population.

If 'not getting enough mobs cuz TMO/IB gets most of them' is the primary motivation for a new server, wouldn't simply reducing all raid mob's spawn times in half be a better solution? Just a simple doubling of the total amount of raid content available. Seems like a far better solution to me that wouldn't involve turning both servers into servers not large enough to support lower level grouping at all levels.

[Sampten]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think people comprehend the drawbacks of splitting blue's population.

It means it will be harder for people to find groups. This is going to prevent people who come on this server to try things out, from staying for any reasonable amount of time.

I get that some class R guilds still aren't happy with their free pixels that they weren't even getting before, but that seems like an awful reason to split this server's population.

If 'not getting enough mobs cuz TMO/IB gets most of them' is the primary motivation for a new server, wouldn't simply reducing all raid mob's spawn times in half be a better solution? Just a simple doubling of the total amount of raid content available. Seems like a far better solution to me that wouldn't involve turning both servers into servers not large enough to support lower level grouping at all levels.

Reducing respawn time doesn't resolve the issue, nor does adding Velious.

Reducing respawn rate just means that the guilds that can mobilize instantly will kill the mobs more often.

There's a reason why newer MMOs made zones instanced. It levels the playing field for the casual raiders and doesn't force the high end raiders to compete against one another.

If there were a zone to instance in the current P1999 environment, it would be VP. You'd instance that zone, and the rest of the mobs, for better or worse, become FFA.

Even then that's still not a solution. You can't get to VP without killing Trak. Guilds (C/R) would be fighting over Trak kills, not to mention all the other dragons.

Since you can't instance every zone, there's no real solution. You either have FFA or a rotation or something, but getting all parties to agree upon a solution will be practically impossible.

[haksum]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If 'not getting enough mobs cuz TMO/IB gets most of them' is the primary motivation for a new server, wouldn't simply reducing all raid mob's spawn times in half be a better solution? Just a simple doubling of the total amount of raid content available. Seems like a far better solution to me that wouldn't involve turning both servers into servers not large enough to support lower level grouping at all levels.

It doesn't matter. There's only a hand full of chronic complainers around here and they will never be satisfied. In the end these guys all want instances and either won't admit it or can't accept the fact that it's not going to happen here. You give them a little, they might shut up for a while but they will be back, because there will ALWAYS be some injustice against them.

Sure, they start a new rotation server, within a couple months they'll be bitching because there are too many guilds and want faster repops, and they'll want more rules or changes from the GM's, or they'll be bitching because the mobs on their rotation don't fit their time zone and they lose it after so many hours of not being killed and they have to wait another 3 months for another chance. I really don't know how the GM's/devs listen to this shit all day every day! Over and over the GM's say they want LESS workload and these people come up with every idea they can that creates more because they don't fully understand the consequences of their 'solutions'. Guess what a new server means....more staff or more responsibility on the current staff! Doesn't matter how you try to spin it. Splitting the pop with a new server is probably the worst idea out there.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by haksum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter. There's only a hand full of chronic complainers around here and they will never be satisfied. In the end these guys all want instances and either won't admit it or can't accept the fact that it's not going to happen here. You give them a little, they might shut up for a while but they will be back, because there will ALWAYS be some injustice against them.

Sure, they start a new rotation server, within a couple months they'll be bitching because there are too many guilds and want faster repops, and they'll want more rules or changes from the GM's, or they'll be bitching because the mobs on their rotation don't fit their time zone and they lose it after so many hours of not being killed and they have to wait another 3 months for another chance. I really don't know how the GM's/devs listen to this shit all day every day! Over and over the GM's say they want LESS workload and these people come up with every idea they can that creates more because they don't fully understand the consequences of their 'solutions'. Guess what a new server means....more staff or more responsibility on the current staff! Doesn't matter how you try to spin it. Splitting the pop with a new server is probably the worst idea out there.

How dare you try to use foresight in projecting the fallout from a server split.