holo vs holo

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok, so my only question then is whats next? Does holo keep all the members they have and continue to kill all dragons?

should azrael recruit?

Keep? We crootin brah, and we gonna need every member we have and more to start raiding in velious.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Burgerking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep? We crootin brah, and we gonna need every member we have and more to start raiding in velious.

I'm honestly curious...

Your plan is to keep recruiting members and dominate the server with a zerg?

say azrael stops attempting to contest all together. Will holo still continue to recruit?

based on what you are telling me (not sure is srs).. you are going to recruit until there is no competition at all.. using "velious around the corner"(not sure is srs again) and "recruit and contest" as an excuse?

what is the long term game plan? what is the goal? when you achieve your goal then what?

will it ever even be possible for another guild on red to recruit enough players to even contest holocausts numbers? you say you have low lvls in rags so you need more people. Well from what i hear those people are gaining levels and epics every day. So what happens when holocaust is 80-100 strong with geared high lvl toons?

all srs questions.

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm honestly curious...

Your plan is to keep recruiting members and dominate the server with a zerg?

say azrael stops attempting to contest all together. Will holo still continue to recruit?

based on what you are telling me (not sure is srs).. you are going to recruit until there is no competition at all.. using "velious around the corner"(not sure is srs again) and "recruit and contest" as an excuse?

what is the long term game plan? what is the goal? when you achieve your goal then what?

will it ever even be possible for another guild on red to recruit enough players to even contest holocausts numbers? you say you have low lvls in rags so you need more people. Well from what i hear those people are gaining levels and epics every day. So what happens when holocaust is 80-100 strong with geared high lvl toons?

all srs questions.

If you know anything about velious dragons then you would know that these numbers ARE needed to drop them. From everything I heard Velious is right around the corner only months away.

Azrael doesn't seem to be living in reality, it's like they believe Kunark will last forever. They are TOO selfish to take the time to gear out lower lvl's they would rather horde all the loot or RMT it. Who is gonna join a guild that won't reward them anything for the hard work and dedication they put into helping the guild.

We have taken no steps whatsoever to defeat Azrael, they do a fine enough job of that on they're own. We took player's in rags and formed an elite raiding guild that now dominates the server.

Why can't someone else do that? What's stopping them? I'll give you the answer it's a poor attitude. They want everything handed to them, and aren't willing to work for it.

[mostbitter]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok, so my only question then is whats next? Does holo keep all the members they have and continue to kill all dragons?

should azrael recruit?

Yeah they should considering that 60 is likely to be a rather small size for a guild if/when velious releases. I am sure that instead of that you're going to see Azrael numbers dwindle back down and some people will leave and join holocaust. That is what happens when you have a guild that operates like nihilum (officer's/core first,mysterious loot decisions) that is missing the key ingredient which is success in killing raid targets.


Azrael isn't a fun place to be. Azrael is full of back stabbing benedict arnolds all out for themselves and they know it and have known it for years which is why you have a guild full of people with a mentality that recruiting is a bogus way to operate. Because they know that every new mouth is one that is taking pixels out of their own.

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah they should considering that 60 is likely to be a rather small size for a guild if/when velious releases. I am sure that instead of that you're going to see Azrael numbers dwindle back down and some people will leave and join holocaust. That is what happens when you have a guild that operates like nihilum (officer's/core first,mysterious loot decisions) that is missing the key ingredient which is success in killing raid targets.


Azrael isn't a fun place to be. Azrael is full of back stabbing benedict arnolds all out for themselves and they know it and have known it for years which is why you have a guild full of people with a mentality that recruiting is a bogus way to operate. Because they know that every new mouth is one that is taking pixels out of their own.

Lol, pretty sure if lite wanted to, he could have recruited most of Nihilum after they got disbanded. Nobody in Nihilum cared who they were guilded with as long as they had a spot at the pixel trough. Nice try at being righteous though.

Level 30 in vp gear, lol.

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, pretty sure if lite wanted to, he could have recruited most of Nihilum after they got disbanded. Nobody in Nihilum cared who they were guilded with as long as they had a spot at the pixel trough. Nice try at being righteous though.

Level 30 in vp gear, lol.

So now Lite doesn't care, did he not care when he stayed up 72 hours straight corpse camping us? Did he not care when spent two days raising faction in erudin to try and take our bind?

Seriously man buy a clue.

[Elspeth]

guilds are never able to sustain these numbers. eventually people will want good loot and hard epics sooner than later. so many people and personalities inevitably breed conflict. i have respect for colgate but when it comes to holding together a zerg like this, he doesnt have the dedication or PT that nizzar had. it may take a few months, but with all the new players here and continuing to come, it seems a third guild is on the horizon.

[Elspeth]

very amusing to hear max and agatha speak on Azrael as if they have a clue. Talking about bias opinions they formed nearly 2 years ago when they were in the guild. azrael tight-knit family guild full of real ass *****s who have been fighting the zerg since the dawn of norrath. keep hatin.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

keep hatin.

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[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

very amusing to hear max and agatha speak on Azrael as if they have a clue. Talking about bias opinions they formed nearly 2 years ago when they were in the guild. azrael tight-knit family guild full of real ass *****s who have been fighting the zerg since the dawn of norrath. keep hatin.

Azrael isn't two years old. Kunark was released two years ago and there was only red dawn and nihilum. The vast majority of azrael joined here about a year ago. Also tons of new names in azrael such as biggy, sektors, brobb, hokuten crew, mordeath, Casey etc who all weren't part of your so called og crew. Thanks and peace.