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Old 07-11-2014, 01:08 PM
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Bouncerr (fake Gaffin), stick to what you know. If I wanted advice on how to get rejected by guilds and ultimately banned on a warrior, or how to fake my way into a guild using someone else's name, rest assured you'd be the first person I'd contact.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:11 PM
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if i wanted to know how to be irrelevant to the game, say bards have best benefit epic, sell my accounts and be anon stalker on forums i could do that too
What? My comeback may have been old, but at least it was accurate. I was an officer of FE when you applied on Bouncerr, and a member of IB when you were pretending to be Gaffin. Also still have an army of L60s with epics.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:12 PM
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Mad because wrong. So brings up the past. Only a idiot thinks bard epic would even be in the top 3.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
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And I left FE soon as Eccezan invited me to TMO. Not sure what your trying to say.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:14 PM
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Mad because wrong. So brings up the past. Only a idiot thinks bard epic would even be in the top 3.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
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Yes, because the reason you want a 1.8 mod on psalms is for the damage shields...
Well why else would you want it for then?

Stop talking all cryptic and mysterious like you have some arcane knowledge that you're the only one to know and just state it: what on the bard epic is so amazing that you absolutely have to have it? What is game changing about it?

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Instead of swapping instruments, you can have one item equipped that gives a modifier to all instrument types. That modifier is 18 vs. 24, which is 180% vs. 240%, which seems like a significant difference until you realize that's the difference between a 48 point dot vs. a 36, 48 str. vs. 36, etc. So the difference is negligible, but you don't have to switch instruments constantly which, when you're twisting 4 songs, taking one second to swap instruments can make you miss your mark and one of your songs will drop- which can be disastrous in a dragon fight when you're twisting resists.


So, yeah, that is literally the definition of game-changing. It literally changes the way you play because you're not having to constantly swap instruments and can twist more songs.
Sorry Keke, but i disagree. You know you can switch instruments while your song is casting right? You have 3 seconds between each songs to switch to the appropriate instrument. Put instrument in secondary slot, start casting, when song pulses, start the second song and take a whole 3 seconds to switch to other instrument.

I do it while melee'ing and having a mob mezzed and another charmed hitting the main target.

Now if twisting resists is so critical to the success of your raid, you shouldn't be meleeing at all, resists songs are percussion, so you equip your drums (which provide more resists than the epic) and stand in range and twist resists.

My point being: if you have your epic and think that it will allow you to stop switching instruments, you're doing it wrong. Either you switch the instruments to get the maximum effect because the situation matters, or it doesnt and you dont switch instruments and keep meleeing, in which case having your epic is a non-factor because its modifier is lower or equal to the instruments you buy at the vendor.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:21 PM
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What? My comeback may have been old, but at least it was accurate. I was an officer of FE when you applied on Bouncerr, and a member of IB when you were pretending to be Gaffin. Also still have an army of L60s with epics.
Loke, were you not popped in the great SEQ / MQ2 de-level / suspend wave?
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:21 PM
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I'm not mad, just think it is hilarious that someone who played a warrior and rogue is trying to talk about the utility of the bard epic. I have an epic warrior and epic rogue, and can flat out say my bard's epic is more game changing than both. It isn't even close.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:23 PM
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Well why else would you want it for then?

Stop talking all cryptic and mysterious like you have some arcane knowledge that you're the only one to know and just state it: what on the bard epic is so amazing that you absolutely have to have it? What is game changing about it?



Sorry Keke, but i disagree. You know you can switch instruments while your song is casting right? You have 3 seconds between each songs to switch to the appropriate instrument. Put instrument in secondary slot, start casting, when song pulses, start the second song and take a whole 3 seconds to switch to other instrument.

I do it while melee'ing and having a mob mezzed and another charmed hitting the main target.

Now if twisting resists is so critical to the success of your raid, you shouldn't be meleeing at all, resists songs are percussion, so you equip your drums (which provide more resists than the epic) and stand in range and twist resists.

My point being: if you have your epic and think that it will allow you to stop switching instruments, you're doing it wrong. Either you switch the instruments to get the maximum effect because the situation matters, or it doesnt and you dont switch instruments and keep meleeing, in which case having your epic is a non-factor because its modifier is lower or equal to the instruments you buy at the vendor.

Certainly i'm not suggesting it's NECESSARY. You're absolutely right, you can completely play just fine without it. And in certain cases, should. A really heavy dragon fight where every resist point counts, you should be using a drum. But to completely dismiss the bard epic as being totally useless when there is a benefit to having it and it does make you a more effective player in a number of different situations is going too far. When I say "game-changer," I don't mean "you're not a good bard unless you have it," I mean "it changes the way you play the game." That's all.
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