Do you think Aliens exist?

[holsteinrx7]

im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people dont create things that dont or cant exist.

if you, a part of the consciousness of the universe, can imagine aliens to the point where there are hollywood series about it, then why not? its known that there's water on mars and probably oceans at some point. there's also tons of cultural and historical evidence about genetic manipulation to create hybrids and strange creatures, as well as stories of possible interdimensional and space travel reaching back to sumeria, india, egypt, and in the americas.

you dont have to look to far into history to find some whacked out shit. like alexander the great or christopher columbus running into altantian advanced civilzations in the form of ufos.

the bible, and other cultural historical documents are full of crazy ass shit. also, the mathematical probability of life existing and forming itself exceeds the number of estimated atoms in the universe. if one planet can overcome such odds, i find it more likely that its a universal phenominal with governing principals.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by holsteinrx7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people dont create things that dont or cant exist.

Did you really just say this while posting on an elf/dragon simulator forum?

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[Bardalicious]

Relevant clip about holsteinrx7:

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[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by holsteinrx7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you, a part of the consciousness of the universe, can imagine aliens to the point where there are hollywood series about it, then why not? its known that there's water on mars and probably oceans at some point. there's also tons of cultural and historical evidence about genetic manipulation to create hybrids and strange creatures, as well as stories of possible interdimensional and space travel reaching back to sumeria, india, egypt, and in the americas.

So wait, your actual argument in this paragraph is that if we can imagine something and make movies about it, it exists? That's quite the fantasy you've concocted.

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[Archalen]

I said no in the poll but that's not a definite answer. Would need a definition of "aliens" to discuss further.

[moklianne]

I've personally (along with about 10 other people at the time) seen the black triangle UFO float slowly right over my head with no sound at all, so something is definitely going on. This could have been government tech though. I don't discount that our government could be literally at least 25 years ahead of what they lead on about and the majority of UFO's seen are actually terrestrial craft. There's no need to show your best hand to the world when they are all so much further behind you.

I do however believe alien civilizations exist and have at least been monitoring us. Some may be mostly benevolent (grays) while others not (reptilians).

Or perhaps some do occasional experiments in the same fashion a wildlife scientist would: tranq, test, tag, and release an animal. Its all about the scale you look at. After all, if they do exist, we are definitely not the top of the food chain anymore.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've personally (along with about 10 other people at the time) seen the black triangle UFO float slowly right over my head with no sound at all, so something is definitely going on. This could have been government tech though. I don't discount that our government could be literally at least 25 years ahead of what they lead on about and the majority of UFO's seen are actually terrestrial craft. There's no need to show your best hand to the world when they are all so much further behind you.

I do however believe alien civilizations exist and have at least been monitoring us. Some may be mostly benevolent (grays) while others not (reptilians).

Or perhaps some do occasional experiments in the same fashion a wildlife scientist would: tranq, test, tag, and release an animal. Its all about the scale you look at. After all, if they do exist, we are definitely not the top of the food chain anymore.

How is it you postulate that an alien civilization has managed to travel the vast distances required to reach us? If they were capable of such technology, the next question would be: why come here? Resources? Doubtful, there would certainly be a million other planets between us and them that they could take advantage of.

As for UFO sightings, I'm more than skeptical. We seem perpetually fascinated with over-fantasizing about anything that breaks the normality of our current existence, which includes religion, aliens, and end-of-world scenarios. It's easier to fantasize about such things than to cope with the reality that we are in fact, for our own sake is concerned, all alone here.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it you postulate that an alien civilization has managed to travel the vast distances required to reach us? If they were capable of such technology, the next question would be: why come here? Resources? Doubtful, there would certainly be a million other planets between us and them that they could take advantage of.

As for UFO sightings, I'm more than skeptical. We seem perpetually fascinated with over-fantasizing about anything that breaks the normality of our current existence, which includes religion, aliens, and end-of-world scenarios. It's easier to fantasize about such things than to cope with the reality that we are in fact, for our own sake is concerned, all alone here.

I personally don't believe that the speed of light is the ultimate speed limit. There are theories that claim that the vacuum of space is not empty and that dark energy is inhibiting the movement of light/matter through it. Ideas like warp drives can exist using our current laws of physics, the power is just restrictive at this point in time. Why is it so difficult to believe that our science cannot currently explain all facets of the universe yet?

Why do we search for life in the universe? Even microbial? Why is it so difficult to believe that other species can't have a thirst for all knowledge or a curiosity like we have? Or perhaps we are a delicacy, no different than some of the expensive tasty things that we enjoy. You won't know until you meet them and ask them.

UFO's do exist. Much of which occurs naturally (lights in the skies, etc). What you are referring to is alien craft. There is no way to verify whether a UFO is an alien craft unless it lands and aliens pop out and greet you. Its good to be skeptical, its another thing to be closed minded.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't believe that the speed of light is the ultimate speed limit. There are theories that claim that the vacuum of space is not empty and that dark energy is inhibiting the movement of light/matter through it. Ideas like warp drives can exist using our current laws of physics, the power is just restrictive at this point in time. Why is it so difficult to believe that our science cannot currently explain all facets of the universe yet?

Why do we search for life in the universe? Even microbial? Why is it so difficult to believe that other species can't have a thirst for all knowledge or a curiosity like we have? Or perhaps we are a delicacy, no different than some of the expensive tasty things that we enjoy. You won't know until you meet them and ask them.

UFO's do exist. Much of which occurs naturally (lights in the skies, etc). What you are referring to is alien craft. There is no way to verify whether a UFO is an alien craft unless it lands and aliens pop out and greet you. Its good to be skeptical, its another thing to be closed minded.

I never made the statement that science currently explains all facets of the universe. If anything, I've stated the opposite. Being skeptical through logical thought is not the same as being close-minded. I concur that deep-space travel is entirely within the realm of possibility.

However, I disagree that if an advanced species were capable of such a thing, they'd be using it to travel to Earth for any reasons that seem logical. And further, to do so without formally revealing themselves is a rather whimsical notion.

Further, we have groups tasked with monitoring for extraterrestrial communication, such as SETI. We're capable of mapping dark energy via cosmic microwave background radiation levels, capable of seeing beyond the scope of our own galaxy, but yet incapable of providing any definitive proof that we're being visited by life from another planet?

Sorry, I just don't buy it.