Do not allow gnoll fangs to drop if killed by a level 18 and above

[Briscoe]

I'm amazed that someone is really clearing out Blackburrow for fangs at level 22. That is dreadfully slow experience. During off hours when the zone was empty, I would PBAE the entire zone in a single pull and then switch over to my alt to loot piles of fangs, and even doing it that way the experience slowed down by about level 15 and 16 to the point where I stopped doing it. I can't imagine how much of a waste of time it would be at 20+.

[Millburn]

This forum gets more and more toxic everyday.

[BigHurb]

Originally Posted by Briscoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm amazed that someone is really clearing out Blackburrow for fangs at level 22. That is dreadfully slow experience. During off hours when the zone was empty, I would PBAE the entire zone in a single pull and then switch over to my alt to loot piles of fangs, and even doing it that way the experience slowed down by about level 15 and 16 to the point where I stopped doing it. I can't imagine how much of a waste of time it would be at 20+.

naw, take a druid in and AOE whole zone, log in new char, loot , almost instant 20 .. then keep on keeping on til goblin ears and HHK

[Spoonerism]

Isn't it considered "zone disruption" if higher levels are pulling an entire zone and killing everything?

Just wonderin...

[rollin5k]

yea i believe it is

[lecompte]

Just so everyone knows, the OP gave up this thread a while ago.

[BarackObooma]

There is a thread like this every week or so. I replied in one about a month ago. Here's the link.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ht=blackburrow

I did the math so if you want to use it as proof that the experience per fang turn in is not classic feel free to use this as a start. You need to figure out how to prove it was less than that in classic.

"I have calculated that each fang turn in is around 19,000-20,000 experience.

See the leveling chart at:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Experien...ement_by_Level

For a 22 Ranger it took exactly 100 fangs to go from 22 to 23 (1,387,000 x 1.4 = 1,941,800 experience needed to level – divided by 100 equates to the 19-20k per fang estimate).

When not many people are in the zone, it takes maybe 2-3 hours to do that. The higher your level the faster you kill so you really don’t slow down leveling unless there is a lot of competition.

For that same level 22 Ranger soloing level 20 mobs in an outdoor zone (75 ZEM), you’d get 30,000 experience per mob solo. You would need to solo (1,941,800 / 30k) approximately 65 mobs to level. This means you would need to kill each one every 2 minutes with no downtime to med/heal to get equitable experience. This is not likely.

So if I can level faster, with no down time and pretty much no chance of dying, why wouldn't I take that option?"

[BarackObooma]

Level & XP Needed To Level (without class/race mods)
1 1000
2 7,000
3 19,000
4 37,000
5 61,000
6 91,000
7 127,000
8 169,000
9 217,000
10 271,000
11 331,000
12 397,000
13 469,000
14 547,000
15 631,000
16 721,000
17 817,000
18 919,000
19 1,027,000
20 1,141,000
21 1,261,000
22 1,387,000
23 1,519,000
24 1,657,000
25 1,801,000
26 1,951,000
27 2,107,000
28 2,269,000
29 2,437,000
30 5,311,000
31 3,070,100
32 3,274,700
33 3,485,900
34 3,703,700
35 8,215,600
36 4,537,200
37 4,796,400
38 5,062,800
39 5,336,400
40 12,017,200
41 6,397,300
42 6,717,100
43 7,044,700
44 7,380,100
45 16,835,800
46 8,695,400
47 9,081,800
48 9,476,600
49 9,879,800
50 10,291,400
51 23,976,500
52 25,996,300
53 28,118,100
54 46,090,700
55 33,568,400
56 36,043,600
57 38,631,000
58 41,333,000
59 64,689,900
60 48,152,500

There's a post from 2001 where a Dwarf Paladin said he went from level 6 to 7 on one stack of fangs.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2878

"this is an excellant quest for newbies in quenos...when you get to 5th lvl go to blackburrow and save the fangs (they stack)..and when your not busy or you go to quenoys to sell loot complete it.good exp i went from lvl 6 to lvl 7 with 1 stack (includes doing the moonstone part)

Daldane
9 pally Dwarf"


Level 6 would take 91,000 experience x 40% penalty = 127,400 experience needed. Divided by 20 fangs, that would mean each fang = 6370 experience which is less than 1/3 of what it currently is (19-20k each).

If you want to bug report this and use it as starter evidence (I'd recommend finding more examples), go for it. If they dropped the reward experience by 2/3, that place would be a ghost town.

[BarackObooma]

One problem with finding more evidence is Zam does not even have the gnoll fang quest for qeynos listed. It only has the Halas one.

[BigHurb]

the quest petered out by like, level 11 or so with diminishing returns.. it gets stuck at a certain point or decays every level block or never