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Old 03-20-2014, 04:59 PM
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Titles are a great idea, early access perhaps if it was scrutinized and given out properly.

If you want this done and done now, just copy over everyone automatically, shut down blue for a week, and tell everyone to get testing. The sooner we hit the milestones the sooner Blue + Velious is pushed live.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:48 PM
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Nilbog has been on in /ooc a few times I have been on so he is listening to peoples complains and likes. So it is not like being on is just a waste of time without submitting a bug report. Velious is not going to get fixed without people helping out.

So yeah, would help if more bodies showed up. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:31 AM
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No one wants to grind faction on a beta server, set up an npc that grants instant faction so people can actually test stuff.
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:32 AM
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Giving a vendor with epics/gear and level 60 is not the solution to getting people on beta, All this would do is put a bunch of people on Beta who don't have these items on it and eventually burn out any real desire they have to play on blue or red because why? They just got every item handed to them even if its a beta server for a few months, Most people will be satisfied with that.

Faction potions might be the answer, Anything that is getting done on the server is going to be done by a guild or a group of friends. You cannot get much done solo, and even 1 or 2 people a lot is still shitty and hard and no one wishes to farm faction on beta for days. My suggestion might be to add some sort of insta faction, So guilds can all go over as one and test things out instead of trying to faction which there is no incentive to(I realize everyone wants velious, but despite that very few if anyone is going to grind out faction for quest gear they will never get on Beta in its current state, But if faction is obtained through days of straight grinding they may POSSIBLY be able to get the other quested items that don't involve gems/armor from ToV or wherever.
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Old 03-21-2014, 04:07 AM
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Giving a vendor with epics/gear and level 60 is not the solution to getting people on beta, All this would do is put a bunch of people on Beta who don't have these items on it and eventually burn out any real desire they have to play on blue or red because why? They just got every item handed to them even if its a beta server for a few months, Most people will be satisfied with that.

Faction potions might be the answer, Anything that is getting done on the server is going to be done by a guild or a group of friends. You cannot get much done solo, and even 1 or 2 people a lot is still shitty and hard and no one wishes to farm faction on beta for days. My suggestion might be to add some sort of insta faction, So guilds can all go over as one and test things out instead of trying to faction which there is no incentive to(I realize everyone wants velious, but despite that very few if anyone is going to grind out faction for quest gear they will never get on Beta in its current state, But if faction is obtained through days of straight grinding they may POSSIBLY be able to get the other quested items that don't involve gems/armor from ToV or wherever.
All that's really needed right now is an NPC that can level or de-level you and spell vendors for each class that provide the whole gambit pre-velious. Who cares if people might get burnt out on that, that's their own personal responsibility. Testing right now requires you to already be established on the server, when it should at least allow anybody to properly test the areas they're most familiar with regardless of their current progress on live.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:51 AM
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You cannot get much done solo
This is all kinds of wrong. The vast majority of the bug reports that are being submitted and still need to be submitted are solo work. Yes, there are guilds and groups working on finding issues in raid zones and high end group areas but even those bugs will require research to be done by individuals. I spend at least as much time googling as I do playing on beta, and I've submitted as many beta bugs as anyone.

If you're a forum warrior with lots of web time to kill, spend less of it in RnF and server chat and try to, for instance, look up some loot on Skyshrine mobs pre-Nov 2002.

And log on beta and start finding the small bugs - you'll have plenty of opportunities to get involved in group stuff if you spend some time doing the little things.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:28 AM
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Alot of the testing is about researching mob infos atm, do an encounter, check MR and whatnot, then look up wether an SK was supposed to be able to solo fear kite a mid 50s mob in couple of minutes (probably not since most everything oughta have 1000MR and ridiculous hp bars). But as usual, comment sections from 2001 are really conflicting on what they tell you. One guy says this guy was an easy fight and he snared it, next guy says couldn't land snare at all and it took ages to kill by a full group. Alot of the stuff we can test currently is actually pretty well documented, it's just the part outside playing the server is wretched homework and not many are excited about the idea of shuffling around with wayback machine to investigate each and every mob in Velious.

But again, faction boost NPCs at city entrances or just making all faction hits from mob kills/quests alot higher would make this far more appealing imo. Tested ring quest as far as could, tried various camps, checked out some skyshrine stuff, but by the end of the day the amount of faction grinding needed to do for trying any of the other questlines is ridiculous and feels very unnecessary. I don't want silly custom title rewards for testing, I just want to test stuff without having to sit at Kael entrance slaying guards for half a week to get to the testing.

Plus we could use teleport sticks to zones other than thurgadin. /nod
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