ATTN: Devs/GMs

[Kergan]

Anyone who cares about end game PVP or PVE is not rolling on a team without bards. It's just not a class you an restrict access to and have a decent server. SKs, necros, druids, rangers, paladins are honestly the 5 most useless classes for end game PVE. Necros have some use with DMF/summon corpse/mana pumping but the lack of those isn't going to ruin your raid. Druids offer ports and nothing else another class can't do better. SKs/paladins can tank shit but a warrior with mallet is still far superior. Rangers aren't needed for anything.

Restricting access to those classes wouldn't do much, especially if they add summon corpse potions restricted to the non evil teams - which I'm pretty sure was stated by staff would be done.

Not quite sure why people ask for the SZ ruleset either. It is a proven failure.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Min/maxers can play their bards, then. If evil team ended up being the least advanced in pve content maybe I'd join. Always kinda wished I'd been dark team on live, and raided as a pro purist.

No one is asking for the SZ ruleset... that would be terrible, with trains and all.

It doesn't take a min/maxer to not want to deal with a bard in an outdoor zone on a pvp server.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't take a min/maxer to not want to deal with a bard in an outdoor zone on a pvp server.

For what it's worth, I want evil team to have bards. The suggestion to not allow them bards only came up because people were going on about evils being OP. Best solution is to make evil team FFA imo.

[Faerie]

Chewie's scared he might make a friend or two [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kergan]

Chewie doesn't want friends? Too late YOU GOT ONE.

[Squire]

Originally Posted by STOP CHEWIE NOOOO [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol lotta wishful thinkers sayin my name in this thread like i would play some blue-ass teams server
keep dreamin!

if they merge u will lol

[sprinkle16]

there Is no teams server, why are you idiots still talking about it

[raitheon]

Originally Posted by sprinkle16 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there Is no teams server, why are you idiots still talking about it

So evils with bards. Evils also being FFA - this would make sense in a purely 'chaotic evil' sort of situation.

But then you kind of segregate the group to two factions instead of three. You'd have the FFA crowd and then the non FFA crowd. Evil would have access to all classes at that point; but the problem is that good would be lacking necromancers and SK's.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Squire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah i'd like to hear what team compositions the devs have narrowed down

[Tecmos Deception]

This may sound like a dumb question, but what exactly is the point of a teams server when there already is this server?

It's not like this server isn't basically divided into teams by player choice already, and it seems like a teams server without sufficient population (so like... at least double current red, maybe 3x?) would be horrible since there wouldn't be the groups around that you'd pretty much need in order to go explore "enemy territory" dungeons or whatnot.

I guess I can see teams having a non-hardcore appeal, since people can get their xp on in relative safety in their team's territory? Seems like the fresh start is probably more what blue/new/casual players would be interested in than the new rules /shrug