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Old 02-20-2014, 05:48 PM
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When will we have latency 350ms+? That shits classic, and greatly changed how we all played (especially casters)
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:34 PM
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Am I missing something about duck ... can't you get the exact same effect by jumping? Now granted you can't jump while levitating, but otherwise it doesn't seem like a duck nerf would be a big deal.

As for recharges, P99 seems far more like a classic mechanics server than a classic environment server to me. The only environment over mechanics decision I can think of (besides the ones already mentioned) is redoing Quillmane to not have the '#' hack; everything else on the server seems to prioritize classic mechanics over classic environment.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:45 PM
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change it up especially item recharging.

I believe the issue with duck canceling is that ducking immediately stops your cast and allows you to recast when it should force you to finish the spell cast with an interrupt
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:54 PM
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Classic experiencerience v. classic mechanics. You often can't have both. This is one of those times. I don't get the impression that even CLOSE to "everyone" uses wc caps though, especially not frequently, let alone nets rings mallets ch clicks sham pots etc. Almost no one rocks strings bladestoppers shield of the immaculate etc, they are just visible when they do imo.

I'd be excited to see duck + refresh changes roll around though!
Id disagree. Looking at the IB recruitment page, youre basically required fo have all the above if u ever wanna get tagged
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:03 PM
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Id disagree. Looking at the IB recruitment page, youre basically required fo have all the above if u ever wanna get tagged
IBs total membership is 1% of the population. The 3 Class C raid guilds combined are about 5% of the population. The Class R guilds are like 14% of the population.

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Old 02-20-2014, 08:06 PM
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Bump - every poster against it so far is a soloer/duoer or OT hammer seller with selfish motives
I'm neither a soloer nor do I duo. I don't have the items in question nor do have I used any.

That said, I think the suggested changes (nerfing recharging and spell-duck interrupting) are bad ideas and would oppose them. I also oppose the staring at books while medding. I remember it well and it sucked back then and it would suck even more now.

We all know that "is it classic" is nothing more than a bullshit excuse. P99 is classic-like but it's not classic for numerous reasons, not the least of which being YEARS since Kunark which dramatically changes the end-game experience.

You weenies shouting the classic mantra seriously need to find something better to do. Stop picking and choosing what you want to be classic and what you don't. P99 can't ever be fully classic. Period. And you know it. It was a different time on different hardware with different infrastructure and running on a different operating system (Win98 or Win95).

You know what also was classic? 2 boats through OOT. Also the direction of the boats in OOT is INTENTIONALLY BACKWARD from classic. Any Dev daring to say "well, we're making the change because it was on classic) needs to make sure the boats go in the backwards direction that they were on live.

You know what else? The falling damage on P99 is crap. Live was littered with corpses under Kelethin. Now you can fall off the city and often won't take any damage at all, let alone enough to kill you. You can't get more classic than that. I used to hear the crunch crunch crunch sound going downhill in NRO when I had sow. Where's that? It was classic too. Why aren't the neckbeards screaming about that?

My point in bringing up these things is not to bitch about them in hopes that they'll be changed. I'm ok with them the way they are. They were classic but oh well. It's not worth whining about - just like the things the OP is complaining about.

And let's get real. This is nothing more than a red player trying to screw with an experience that they don't even participate in.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:18 PM
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:41 PM
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IBs total membership is 1% of the population. The 3 Class C raid guilds combined are about 5% of the population. The Class R guilds are like 14% of the population.

You can disagree, but you're wrong.
This. Any leveling group you're in? I'd be surprised if even one them has a hat on them. Most 60s usually do but only because their leaders tell them to for raids... 50/50 chance it isn't even charged. You'd think of any guild, a-team would be whoring the the clickies left and right, right? I give away a charged mallet at every single raid tecmos attends because it's rare we have more than 1 tank with a charged one!

Liia soloing dartain, sakuragi soloing rokyl, svenn and Maurice soloing every mob on the server? Yeah, they often use clickies. But go read maurices kills. He did stuff like the sham epic dude in com solo without clickies. Raid guilds only use big-time clickies in extreme situations, they aren't out there soloing trak with a few monks loaded with soulfires and bladestoppers and shit.

This whole "recharging is ruining pve challenge" is just red troll anyways... hence nilbog moving this thread here from the bug forums.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:56 PM
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I'm neither a soloer nor do I duo. I don't have the items in question nor do have I used any.

That said, I think the suggested changes (nerfing recharging and spell-duck interrupting) are bad ideas and would oppose them. I also oppose the staring at books while medding. I remember it well and it sucked back then and it would suck even more now.

We all know that "is it classic" is nothing more than a bullshit excuse. P99 is classic-like but it's not classic for numerous reasons, not the least of which being YEARS since Kunark which dramatically changes the end-game experience.

You weenies shouting the classic mantra seriously need to find something better to do. Stop picking and choosing what you want to be classic and what you don't. P99 can't ever be fully classic. Period. And you know it. It was a different time on different hardware with different infrastructure and running on a different operating system (Win98 or Win95).

You know what also was classic? 2 boats through OOT. Also the direction of the boats in OOT is INTENTIONALLY BACKWARD from classic. Any Dev daring to say "well, we're making the change because it was on classic) needs to make sure the boats go in the backwards direction that they were on live.

You know what else? The falling damage on P99 is crap. Live was littered with corpses under Kelethin. Now you can fall off the city and often won't take any damage at all, let alone enough to kill you. You can't get more classic than that. I used to hear the crunch crunch crunch sound going downhill in NRO when I had sow. Where's that? It was classic too. Why aren't the neckbeards screaming about that?

My point in bringing up these things is not to bitch about them in hopes that they'll be changed. I'm ok with them the way they are. They were classic but oh well. It's not worth whining about - just like the things the OP is complaining about.

And let's get real. This is nothing more than a red player trying to screw with an experience that they don't even participate in.
Running the FPS super high changes the falling and jumping mechanics. 30 FPS and everything is normal. I usually go 40-60 to be in the ballpark of classic. Over 60 is just not needed although you can actually see it run smoother.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:04 PM
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Am I missing something about duck ... can't you get the exact same effect by jumping? Now granted you can't jump while levitating, but otherwise it doesn't seem like a duck nerf would be a big deal.
jumping does not cancel either, go roll a lvl 1 on red if curious
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