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Old 02-10-2014, 10:09 PM
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It was heavily autobiographical for Roger. The main inspiration was during the tour for Animals, Roger spit in the face of one of his fans because they were dancing and shouting and having a good time, and Roger was certain that they were not actually listening to and appreciating the music. So he spit at them, and after that, got very retrospective. He started to think he isolated himself from his audience, which inspired him to write The Wall, where the fans wouldn't see them doing their music, and could do nothing but listen to it.

So he took his life, the death of his father in World War 2, and splashed it in with Syd's drug OD, and created the character Pink. Pink is ultimately a very self-loathing, self-destructive individual due to the mental wall he builds around himself through the film, starting with the death of his father (from Roger), his difficulty in school (also Roger, note that the poem the school teacher rips on him for in the film are the lyrics to Money from Dark Side of the Moon), and eventually even the drugs (Syd) and his wife's cheating (no attribution as far as I know). The problem is, Pink is also shown to perceive himself as a Hitler-esque figure, perhaps in thinking that he is the reason there have been so many issues in his life and so it is he that is killing off all that is good about himself, domineering over an army of fans that are blindly following him. It is rather telling about Roger as a person who, at the time, was become increasingly dictatorial about the direction of Pink Floyd which eventually lead to the splitting up of the band for a short time before Gilmour got the band back together for a solid and a fan-fucking-tastic album.

Yeah. It is a neat film, and very neat album, but it is clearly very angsty.

that ego thing can fuck up some shit and get some shit made though. i haven't read a lot of interviews about pink floyd, but i'm a huge fan. i know that waters got booted for being a dick, and i'd have to say that he doesn't seem to have coped well enough with being an entertainer.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:20 PM
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now i wonder if roger was actually "pink" other than sid as being the obvious guess
This quote immediately made me think of that one line from "Have a Cigar."
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:23 PM
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This quote immediately made me think of that one line from "Have a Cigar."
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forgot about that line
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:13 PM
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This quote immediately made me think of that one line from "Have a Cigar."
Which was actually said to them by the first label to pick them up. They quickly moved on to other labels.

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that ego thing can fuck up some shit and get some shit made though. i haven't read a lot of interviews about pink floyd, but i'm a huge fan. i know that waters got booted for being a dick, and i'd have to say that he doesn't seem to have coped well enough with being an entertainer.
It wasn't so much that Roger was booted, as much as it was that everyone else quit, and then reformed later without him. He even tried to due them for still being called Pink Floyd without him.

He didn't cope well, but I think he has lightened up a lot more in the last decade.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:16 PM
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He didn't cope well, but I think he has lightened up a lot more in the last decade.
I read his letter to Scarlett Johanssen about sticking with sodastream even though it operates in the occupied territories, dont know about this ego thing but seemed pretty restrained and got it in check if it was a problem before.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:25 PM
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I read his letter to Scarlett Johanssen about sticking with sodastream even though it operates in the occupied territories, dont know about this ego thing but seemed pretty restrained and got it in check if it was a problem before.
What he has not calmed down about is his political activism. I think that's where he channeled all of his pent up energy so that he could play music without being such a douche about it. In regards to his career, he seems to be more or less cool and chill, but he is still a very loud and outspoken political activist. That isn't a problem in my book, personally.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:43 PM
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Less letters, more music IMO

Rush - Subdivisions

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Front Line Assembly - Iceolate

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Old 02-12-2014, 06:48 PM
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New Order - Blue Monday

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B-52s - Roam

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WD-40 - Tout les animaux sont mes amis (All the animals are my friends)

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Les Georges Leningrad - Ennio Morricone

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