Congratulations Lord Bob

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by A-Aron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hyjal claims to have contacted IB and BDA, and were told no? BDA or IB leadership can confirm/deny. Sounds like BS though.

Are you just assuming...? If Hyjal contacted any member of BDA or IB about being on the Sky rotation, whether they were an officer or not, they should not have been told no.

Originally Posted by A-Aron

This is a joke now, right?

Why would it be?

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you just assuming...? If Hyjal contacted any member of BDA or IB about being on the Sky rotation, whether they were an officer or not, they should not have been told no.

Typically, to contact a particular guild, as a whole, a player would send a tell to someone in said guild and ask to be put in touch with an officer. That's kinda how it works.

If Lord Bob is too stupid to know how to even contact a guild leader, while crying that everyone hates them, then I can't fathom how you guys think they're so clever.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would it be?

I'm pretty sure there was/is an entire thread dedicated to how people reached out to this guild about raid talks and they didn't want to participate. I can't seem to find it, and I'm wondering if it i was in the raid discussion banter that got deleted.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you just assuming...? If Hyjal contacted any member of BDA or IB about being on the Sky rotation, whether they were an officer or not, they should not have been told no.



Why would it be?

I contacted them. Twice. Got blown off twice. I think I even offered to try and work out sharing a slot with 'em.

They had no interest :\

[Lojik]

Pretty sure the only time they reached out to guilds was to request mergers.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naw, it's called sarcasm. In any case,


Doljon as a whole isn't big on the forums. Most of their leadership rarely even comes here. Here's my conversation with their guild leader about the rotation. I approached him because I was concerned about someone raiding sky outside of the rotation causing a potential headache for the staff.

[Wed Dec 25 12:58:44 2013] You told Hyjal, 'was just curious what you guys were told when you tried to get into the sky rotation?'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:06 2013] You told Hyjal, 'its not something gm's enforce, but i had heard several stories about what happened and was just trying to satisfy my own curiosity'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:06 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'that we are uncapale of doing it'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:19 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'uncapable'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:56 2013] You told Hyjal, 'anything else...?'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:07 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'honestly, were not use to rotations. the end game dragons/gods are not on a rotation'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:18 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'but for some reason sky is. we are unable to compete with dragons, gods'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:22 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'currently at least'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:45 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'our only options are the planes. we asked about rotation when we first started, but was told we were uncapable of doign the plane'
[Wed Dec 25 13:02:01 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'so we just have gone against the grain i guess'
[Wed Dec 25 13:02:34 2013] You told Hyjal, 'was there any justification as to why you couldn't handle clearing sky...?'
[Wed Dec 25 13:03:02 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'nope, just that we havent proven anything basically'
[Wed Dec 25 13:03:18 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'the initial hostility definitely set the tone for us. we have gone more toward an FTE environment'


[Wed Dec 25 13:17:36 2013] You told Hyjal, 'i have no idea who decides on the sky rotation, i dont think its any one person'
[Wed Dec 25 13:17:45 2013] You told Hyjal, 'thats why i was wondering who had told you no'
[Wed Dec 25 13:18:44 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'ah. i asked random folks in ib, and bregan at first'

Unless Doljon's guild leader was straight up lying to me in this conversation, which he really had no reason to do considering I had already expressed to him that we don't enforce the Sky rotation, I'd say my info is correct regarding Doljon being told 'no' is correct.

Maybe Doljonijiarnimorinar should have tried harder to get on the rotation, I can't speak to that. But I can say that if I had asked about getting on the rotation and was told 'no, you aren't good enough for sky,' I wouldn't be thrilled about pursuing the issue further either.

I rarely just 'assume' things, A-aron, and when I do, I make sure it's a solid assumption backed by evidence first. Doljon didn't get invited to voice their opinion at the raid talks either, and you guys are surprised that they are jaded?

pretty sure Hyaj here is lying about asking for a rotation spot. he didn't do it in the Sky thread. who did he ask? i'm willing to eat my words and admit he wasn't lying if someone can verify that he actually did ask.

[Mac Dretti]

Derubael can we just leave these.faghots alone they require massive hand holding should just turn PvP on blue

I been hoping to talk to u and Sirk plz reply 2 pm

[Mac Dretti]

HE TOOK MY SKY MOB WAHH

[arsenalpow]

Hyjal never contacted BDA concerning sky. The only communication I ever saw was the "fuck you, we'll do what we want" post in the sky thread. As far as the class r rotation we contacted them personally and were told that they didn't believe in player made agreements and that they're gonna do whatever they're gonna do.

Bob guild doesn't want to play ball. There's a place for that, it's called Class C.

[Frogie305]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hyjal never contacted BDA concerning sky. The only communication I ever saw was the "fuck you, we'll do what we want" post in the sky thread. As far as the class r rotation we contacted them personally and were told that they didn't believe in player made agreements and that they're gonna do whatever they're gonna do.

Bob guild doesn't want to play ball. There's a place for that, it's called Class C.

BDA - Why don't you come to class C? and Let the guilds that acutally belong in class R to be there.