Hey GM's!

[Mac Dretti]

Ragefire is not at 6 am est

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[BrobbVZ]

and Retti you see me there, even if we don't have a raid force I show up because there is PvP. You know what I love hearing from players like Vaporize. "I came for the pvp", Seriously? You showed up at 5am to raid content for the pvp Vaporize? Maybe if you weren't in the top guild with max levels/gears then I'd believe you. Show up on our side Vaporize and then you can claim you came for the pvp....

[Mac Dretti]

Pixels make character more powerful

Same reason RD logs at TD and goes to bed early, to get fay shields and dragon hero bracers

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[Kergan]

Originally Posted by BrobbVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kergan.. I feel like you're a smart enough man to understand but you're in this "Nihilum" state of mind currently. What I am asking for is for the better of the server. I know there are members in Nihilum that don't like waking up at 5AM Eastern, or hell 2am if you're pacific.

What I am asking for, is the next repop be more around normal times for the normal human being. That is all, we have had a fair share of 4AM repops and I think it is time for a change no? I enjoy pvp more than your average player, win or lose count me in. I enjoy being the underdog and earning what I worked for. I don't like handouts and thats why I am not in Nihilum.

Let's just test out a normal repop time, no one is asking for handouts. I want competition and I want to pvp for dragons. Under the circumstances that we currently have, that is impossible. Thanks for listening to me Rogean and hopefully we see change [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I HATE 4 and 5 AM repops. My raid attendance has plummeted nearly to guildremove level since it started. But clearly Nihilum is able to handle it as a guild. Altering a repop schedule that happened naturally simply so another guild can contest isn't sporting in my opinion. It's easy to say you want competition when you can't compete, but even getting to the point you can contest takes time and effort.

There is a reason blue has 10x the population as red. I've convinced a huge percentage of people on R99 are there because of the exp bonus and nothing else. They think they'll be able to avoid PVP somehow. When it becomes difficult they quit or join the easy path. There will always be an easier path, and because the majority will flow in that direction it will never change. Even if you split Nihilum in two and pitted those guilds against each other, one would become victorious in fairly short order and you'd end up in the same situation. As long as one guild is capable of clearing all top tier raid content on the same day it respawns this situation will not change.

Velious is really the only hope to build a second guild. None of what we're talking about in this thread or anywhere else - variance, PNP, repop times, random simulated server resets, etc will make a dent in what you are defining as the problem. Until there is more stuff to do then one guild can accomplish.

All that being said, I don't see the harm in doing the simulated server restarts during prime time only. Changing the entire repop schedule is way too much, but throwing a few spawns out there to see what happens wouldn't be a bad idea.

[k9quaint]

DAOC origins has great large scale PvP all the time. R99 only has it every once in a while at 4am PST. The server pops reflect this.

If R99 raid content is still popping at 4am when/if DAOC origins gets their sploits patched, it won't be much of a contest.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad you mentioned this. This is actually not how classic EQ works. Never in the history of EQ did you have months between resets, with all the mobs killed during vampire hours in a 3 hour window week in and week out. I'm glad you believe this is "classic," but as someone who raided in cutting edge end game guilds on Xegony and The Nameless, as well as Guided and took interest in the server I was a Guide on, I can assure you it isn't.

Would you argue that it was the intent of the EQ devs for shit to crash randomly multiple times a month? Of course not. If they could have kept the servers up and stable for months on end they would have. They also would have never kept a server alive with R99's population, it would have been merged ages ago. There is no classic reference point for what we have so stop trying to use one.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Agatha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy shit, i read half way through, and agree with you on everything. But here is were you are wrong.

EQ has always been a sockers game, it never catered to the avg casual player. Im sorry but. no... as much as i'd love it to be this way its not possible.

I'm trying really hard to not sound like a dick but go find a WoW server to play man.

This is exactly lead me to joining Nihilum, the "resistance" does not have the time, nor the will to do what is needed to even begin to contest on a equal level.

The gear gap in kunark from VP to walmart is not big.

You lost this server the second you invited azrael to your guild, if you had not done this the mood would not have changed, you might have been able to get majority of people who were in RD that were 60 already to PL and help gear.

The atmosphere has changed, its azrael v5 already. People are jocking for top position for loots that don't exist. and on the off chance you get loot, everyone is sour when they don't get it. it's just not conductive to a heathly stable guild.

Those people don't deserve you're time heartbrand.

idk what you are even talking about but if this is some troll attempt gonna say you put way too much effort/words

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I HATE 4 and 5 AM repops. My raid attendance has plummeted nearly to guildremove level since it started. But clearly Nihilum is able to handle it as a guild. Altering a repop schedule that happened naturally simply so another guild can contest isn't sporting in my opinion. It's easy to say you want competition when you can't compete, but even getting to the point you can contest takes time and effort.

There is a reason blue has 10x the population as red. I've convinced a huge percentage of people on R99 are there because of the exp bonus and nothing else. They think they'll be able to avoid PVP somehow. When it becomes difficult they quit or join the easy path. There will always be an easier path, and because the majority will flow in that direction it will never change. Even if you split Nihilum in two and pitted those guilds against each other, one would become victorious in fairly short order and you'd end up in the same situation. As long as one guild is capable of clearing all top tier raid content on the same day it respawns this situation will not change.

Velious is really the only hope to build a second guild. None of what we're talking about in this thread or anywhere else - variance, PNP, repop times, random simulated server resets, etc will make a dent in what you are defining as the problem. Until there is more stuff to do then one guild can accomplish.

All that being said, I don't see the harm in doing the simulated server restarts during prime time only. Changing the entire repop schedule is way too much, but throwing a few spawns out there to see what happens wouldn't be a bad idea.

Actually, I would argue simulated repops WOULD be a positive change. Each piece of gear that Red Dawn gets has a monumentally larger impact than each piece of gear that Nihilum gets. This is because for the most part, the gear farmed by Nihilum goes to alts or rots, whereas the gear obtained by Red Dawn is worn. ANY fight an underdog wins is a HUGE morale boost, whereas it's "business as usual," with Nihilum. Even if repops meant Red Dawn were to get only 2 or 3 of the mobs, it would have a huge impact. People are willing to be part of an underdog if they believe they have a chance, no matter how small or large, at pixels. If they see it as an impossibility, they either quit / join nihilum.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by k9quaint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DAOC origins has great large scale PvP all the time. R99 only has it every once in a while at 4am PST. The server pops reflect this.

If R99 raid content is still popping at 4am when/if DAOC origins gets their sploits patched, it won't be much of a contest.

I don't mean it as an insult, but it isn't a contest now. The only opportunity RD has to contest at this point is if it happens during a perfect prime time window where you guys can get 50+ in the zone. Would you disagree with that? If not, how can altering the repops specifically so RD can fight for them not seem like complete favoritism?

At some point, the staff is going to have to decide if they want to blatantly interfere to artificially create competition or if they are going to leave it alone and let the chips fall where they may.

Unless I am mistaken at no point in the history of any live server or P99 server have server mechanics or the way the game operates been changed to help out a single guild get pixels. That's really what you're asking for man. You can continue to pretend its for the "better of the server" but how does it help Chewie and FoH? Random unguilded people? How about a new player that started two weeks ago?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, I would argue simulated repops WOULD be a positive change. Each piece of gear that Red Dawn gets has a monumentally larger impact than each piece of gear that Nihilum gets. This is because for the most part, the gear farmed by Nihilum goes to alts or rots, whereas the gear obtained by Red Dawn is worn. ANY fight an underdog wins is a HUGE morale boost, whereas it's "business as usual," with Nihilum. Even if repops meant Red Dawn were to get only 2 or 3 of the mobs, it would have a huge impact. People are willing to be part of an underdog if they believe they have a chance, no matter how small or large, at pixels. If they see it as an impossibility, they either quit / join nihilum.

By that logic, doing planar clears, mini bosses like Chardok royals and farming PoAir should accomplish the same goal and are readily available.