Here's your chance to influence LnS

[k9quaint]

I think there needs to be a separate clause to govern stalemates or skirmishes occurring at zonelines that have not boiled into full on PvP.

Zoning in, take a hit, then zoning back out should not constitute declaring LNS and being barred from the zone for 1 hour IMO.

[Liten]

So, we have KC fights every day. Say 3 people from guild A zones in to KC, to fight 7 people from guild B. Guild A zones out, but does not die, they are then on LnS from KC for an hour? and if they zone back they will get punished somehow?

This will kill a lot of fun PvP we have had last two weeks if so. Zoneline are a large part of EQ PvP, i don't always like it, but it's classic as fuck.

[Derubael]

Added the tl;dr

[Liten]

Well take it alittle longer, one of the 3 people die, the other 2 zones out and meet up with another 4 people from guild A. Who can zone back in?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Liten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well take it alittle longer, one of the 3 people die, the other 2 zones out and meet up with another 4 people from guild A. Who can zone back in?

nobody until the 1 hr has passed, they are a group of players united in a common goal (ie, beat guild b out of zone001)

[azo313]

I don't like these rules. Not classic and very far from normal "EverQuest" that we are used to. Why not go back to the original ruleset that this server enjoyed for 2-years? We don't need so much complexities and rules. I appreciate everything the GM's do, but this is too complicated to follow, and too complex to enforce.

[k9quaint]

It would also be useful to have a clear line of escalation with official notification.

Example:
First offense, explicit warning about violation
Second offense, suspension for 3 days
Continuous violations = ban hammer

[Koota]

I think Gongshow hit a happy medium with what the staff wants (less bullshit and less griefing) and what the players want (classic pvp). You can do whatever the fuck you want, short of cheating, exploiting, training until that person(s) calls LnS. Its clear, concise, and there is no grey area, which is what all the bitching takes place about.

[Liten]

This is to complicated to be honest. i love that you guys are taking interest in cleaning up the PvP on this server. But i have to agree with Gongshow too. This to much work trying to keep track of this and there will be to many situations where things get grey.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Small Scale PvP

If a group leaves a zone completely during an engagement to enter a zone where PvP has not occurred during that engagement, and the opposing group does not pursue, the exiting group is considered to have called LnS in the zone they have left.

Sorry could you clarify this? Do you mean after youve died and everyone has left the zone and the engagement has ended then LNS is assumed.

Or do you mean during an engagement if you zone at all you're considered to have lost the fight and cannot come back for an hour?

For example if you are fighting a 1v1 and you zone is the fight over? What if some one was to agro a mob and zone the agro.