Weighted Point Value System - Serverwide Raid Idea Thread

[Yinikren]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's because we call TMO out for what it is and we don't fall for your spin-doctoring, and you hate that. It's okay, we understand. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Here's some more calling out for you:

We get it. The only thing wrong with the points system is it limits TMO after their points are spent for the week/month. Because so long as everyone has points to spend, it is full competition for FTE on the mobs just the way you guys want it to be. You know, the "competition" you all say you want. It's there so long as you don't blow through all your points trying to dominate everything, which is the exact issue Rogean wants us to solve. This solves it.

The problem you have is when your cup runneth dry and other guilds still have points to spend. You are too afraid that some guild you deem not "worthy" might get something you would rather go to either yourselves or another guild. And that, my friend, is just pure greed speaking. Admit it. Otherwise, what exactly is the problem with TMO sitting out a few mobs after they have gone after what mobs they wanted, killed them, and spent all of their points for the period? Are you THAT seriously afraid of losing pixels after 2 years of getting 80% of the non-VP content and mostly having VP to yourselves? Unbelievable.

I am putting this is my thread as well simply because Yendor is the voice of fucking reason. This system doesn't spoon feed mobs retards. You get to compete for what you want just like you always do. This entire system just makes sure you can't KEEP GOING.

I would also like to point out that, while I like Loraens idea, it doesn't bode as well with me because it still gives you fuckheads 3 weeks of uncontested raiding which is what got us in this shithole. This system favors no guild and that's why you don't like it. You think this is a numbers fucking game where #of kills equals your Epeen size? Then kill cheaper targets so you get more of them.

[Yinikren]

<3 I would but people will just fuck it again I am sure. It doesn't suit TMO's "80% mob rule or we quit" so of course they are against it, but a lot of us casual scum like this idea of regulating mobs.

[Clark]

No to point system

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No to point system

Elaborate.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elaborate.

I am guessing not enough raids

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am guessing not enough raids

90% of the server has this problem, that's why we're here.

[Ravager]

This is probably the fairest proposal, though in my opinion the points should be distributed monthly or bi-weekly, instead of weekly to account for extended windows in the event they're left in.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is probably the fairest proposal, though in my opinion the points should be distributed monthly or bi-weekly, instead of weekly to account for extended windows in the event they're left in.

Monthly evens out the spawn rates. Weekly could have a ton of variance issues that would even out over time.


Still not a fan of weighted points. All raids should count the same...as they all have loot and epics. Making vs epic drops cost more than a pally or war or bard epic is meh.

[Yinikren]

All epic mobs cost the same except for scale mobs and maestro in my system. Mobs are different value to encourage choice - you give up something to take something. If point costs were all the same guilds would kill the same 4 mobs each week.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All epic mobs cost the same except for scale mobs and maestro in my system. Mobs are different value to encourage choice - you give up something to take something. If point costs were all the same guilds would kill the same 4 mobs each week.

Yes the more important ones for progression. That is my point. Guilds would have shots at end of month for trak teeth. It promotes racing and competition.