Will I be reimbursed?

[-Catherin-]

There is only a couple ways to get around this.

Only do an MQ with someone who is known and trusted. Ask who their main is, and then ask them to log the main on and prove it. Even this may not be enough.

Go through an escrow

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow.

Lol.


I'll limit my comments to one thing though. If you don't think RB is MILES ahead of piercers like SCD or rapier of oriin... then you've obviously never used a RB. RB is absolute godmode.

I'm not saying it isn't awesome. I'm just saying you can already faceroll content with the next best thing and nobody complains about a twink rogue with a fungi/RBB and some 13/26 dagger. That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?

There just seems to be this sentiment among some people that drops from one 55+ raid is ok but drops from another isn't just because it's called an epic? Because it's a weapon? Because it's obtained from a quest? I dunno.

I still think MQable crap should just be droppable/tradeable if you're going to allow MQing at all.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?

no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.

Fair enough. So you'd be cool if there was a 16/25 dagger that was droppable and someone was twinked out with it? I guess I was fighting the "it's OP'd" argument but if that's not the argument than I can't really argue with you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of the posts (like the one from Tecmos for example) seemed to directly attack how powerful it was and not anything to do with 46+ being required back in the day.

[Flamewraith]

No no no no stop, just fucking stop. Don't turn this into another TMO flaming thread, if I see one more of those I'll puke. Why can't there be a single fucking thread that doesn't devolve into a hatefest?

[orsk]

Originally Posted by Flamewraith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No no no no stop, just fucking stop. Don't turn this into another TMO flaming thread, if I see one more of those I'll puke. Why can't there be a single fucking thread that doesn't devolve into a hatefest?

You should use a trusted name escrow service or do some more research like ask him to log onto his Ellwood char, see he cant do so, confirmed liar. I can vouche for Bob as can most the rest of the server. Terrible loss but it can be regained, hit me up if you ever need a tank for any parts of your epic.

[Flamewraith]

Originally Posted by orsk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should use a trusted name escrow service or do some more research like ask him to log onto his Ellwood char, see he cant do so, confirmed liar. I can vouche for Bob as can most the rest of the server. Terrible loss but it can be regained, hit me up if you ever need a tank for any parts of your epic.

Again hinsight is 20/20 and I will definitely be seeing Bob soon after I recover from my losses. Deru talked to me about the situation and clarified some things, which was great. It's good to know that they actually do listen, and I'm glad that I wasn't just ignored.

[Nuggie]

This is already a hate fest. For infuriati. He needs to come defend himself. These are serious accusations.

The old "bring your problems to an officer" resolution is too late. It's public. Divinity' reputation is on the line as well. Will they harbor a scum bag and look like shit or boot him and maintain their good street cred? Time will tell.

Get infuriati out here.

[cs616]

Not to drive business away from Bob, but I've almost always been able to find a trusted person in EC to do escrow for a simple donation. Like wise, I've done quite a few for free myself. I think most people in TMO or FE have invested enough into their characters that they would not risk them to rip someone off. That isn't to say people in other guilds aren't in the same boat, but I don't think it is a universal as TMO/FE just due to how much more active those two guilds are. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, and the advice in this thread won't help your situation, but I'd imagine the suggestions people are making in here are more directed towards anyone reading this thread, and not you specifically.

Edit: Also funny to see the BDA / TMO drama over monk epic. Always amazes me how people break out these weak justifications for doing generally shitty things to other people."TMO are mean, so I'm going to be mean to them!" - with this sort of reasoning we're all just racing to the bottom. I think TMO has some members who are complete pieces of shit, but that doesn't stop me from grouping with the good ones, or helping them out when asked. Judging someone based solely on their guild tag would be like picking your friends exclusively on what University they attend. TMO, and even Aalpha (I really don't know him/her at all) could be complete jackasses, but their actions do not dictate yours, and doesn't make jacking someones Xeno (of all mobs lol) any less shitty; even if it is technically in accordance with the rules.

[Aviann]

So what I've gathered from page 5 or 6 or w/e... is that Dundor is Infuriati, and that he has been online with both chars simultaneously? Not only is that illegal, but he is scamming as well. I'll be adding both to my friend's list tonight and petitioning if I see them on together, in hopes of getting some IP investigations kicking.