A fate all gun nuts deserve.

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Originally Posted by Reapin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AR-15 triggered fire that killed Tennessee father and son


Investigators have ruled out foul play as a factor in a bizarre fire that killed a Tennessee father and his 12-year-old son on Sunday.

Preliminary autopsy results released this week showed the pair, of Huron, died of carbon monoxide poisoning and thermal burning, authorities told CNN on Wednesday.

At issue was an accidental firearm discharge, which investigators said triggered the fire as well as the explosions that ensued, but it remains unclear what else contributed.

Henderson County Sheriff Brian Duke said Terry York, 48, was showing his loaded AR-15 to a family friend in the back room of his wooden mobile home when it misfired and a small fire was ignited.

"It was a bizarre misfire that I hadn't seen for more than 20 years," Duke said.

The fire didn't start out as severe but soon triggered explosions "one right after another" in minutes, according to one neighbor's account made to CNN affiliate WBBJ. Henderson County Fire Chief Lynn Murphy said it took firefighters more than four hours to contain the fire. The entire back room was burned down while the rest of the house saw little damage.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/us/ten...html?hpt=hp_t2


Playing with a loaded semi-auto weapon in a room full of black powder. Darwin Award winner right there. Only a matter of before these slack jawed yokels are disarmed and hopefully sterilized.

cocksucking liberal

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Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Today's guns and ammunition are as different from what the founder's had in mind as a hoe is to a backhoe, or a stick of tnt is to nuclear ordnance. Colonial soldiers had to muzzleload a marble propelled by shitty gunpowder. Now you can turn a packed theatre into pink mist with one or two magazines.

Other than the concept of evolution and that Obama's administration isn't uniquely awful, this is the hardest concept for rabid gun owners to understand. George Mason did not own a black rifle and wouldn't have stood up for your "right" to.

Today's internet, TV, and cell phones are as different from what the founder's had in mind as a hoe is to a backhoe, or a stick of tnt is to nuclear ordnance. Colonial soldiers had to dip a pen in an ink well and write on shitty paper. Now you can text, email, or blog someone a novel within one or two seconds.

George Mason did not own a black cell phone and wouldn't have stood up for your "right" to.

The founding fathers never envisioned this communication technology, clearly we should remove the 1st amendment. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by eqgmrdbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know that so called "true americans", say that we cannot trust our government, but if we have no government, then what do we have, a distopian country, where the powerfull run the show, and there are now laws, or justice system. Really you wanna live in a country like that.

Look, im all for peeps wanting to protect themselves, but there has to be a limits to the weapons regular people own. General public should be limited to guns, rifles, and shotguns, anything more is overkill. The police and SWAT, should be allowed to have anything short of M1 tanks. The military should have no limits of course.

If people want to shoot Semi's or 50 cal style weapons, then they should only be fired at Shooting Ranges. Even then, i know that wont stop the violence, we are humans after all. But at least we can reduce the carnage a crazy person can do.

You do realize there is basically little difference in mechanical function between a pistol (lets say a 1911 or a Glock) and an AK47 or AR15 that you can buy today, right? They are all semi automatic. Fully automatic weapons can no longer be purchased in the US (since 1986) unless you are willing to fork over the 20k to buy a pre-ban weapon, which are mostly on the shelves of collectors. When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting in the US with a fully automatic weapon? You haven't....

The Glock, 1911, AK47, AR15 are all semi automatic, all have the same rate of fire (1 bullet per trigger pull), all can be made to hold the same number of bullets (extend magazines, drums etc). You're simply afraid of the AK47 or AR15 but not the pistols because the AK47/AR15 looks "scary", because you do not understand firearms.

Before you get into "well the AK47 or the AR15 shoots further than the glock", maybe .... but when was the last time you heard of someone getting shot in a long range shooting? Most are well under 15 yards.... and I am just as accurate at 15 yards with my AK47 or any other "evil black rifle" as I am with my Glock.

Firearms are inanimate objects, they take a specific set of inputs from a user to fire. The people are the problem, not the firearms.

The types of guns are not the problem. The sickness of the people using them is.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by eqgmrdbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, im all for peeps wanting to protect themselves, but there has to be a limits to the weapons regular people own. General public should be limited to guns, rifles, and shotguns, anything more is overkill. The police and SWAT, should be allowed to have anything short of M1 tanks.

I take a different approach. Police aren't fundamentally supposed to be militarized, and I don't believe they should have access to anything that the ordinary public isn't allowed to own. I felt that way when I worked in that line of work, and I still feel that way today. Excessively militarized departments display a consistent tendency to behave like occupying armies. With the above in mind, I'll happily give up firearms as soon as all law enforcement does the same. If they don't--if their job is so dangerous that they have to wear a gun to work (two, usually)--then I cannot see a justification to deprive that same protection to everyone else. Since there's no way police in the U.S. would currently submit to total disarmament, I therefore fall firmly on the "keep 'em legal for everyone" side of that debate.

For my part, my HK .45 mostly sits locked away except when I oil it from time to time. I rarely shoot. I don't quite "get" gun nuts; it seems a boring hobby once the novelty wears off. I guess a lot of hobbies are like that, though. The folks around here who shoot in their backyards don't bug me one bit.

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Under a strict reading of the constitution, ordinary citizens should be allowed to own pretty much anything--tanks, fighter planes, missles, whatever. The entire point was for the civilian populace to be equipped comparably to a standing army (that's what "well regulated" meant in an era when government soldiers were called "regulars"). Since this aspect of the constitution has long since gone by the wayside there's no real point in even citing the second amendment in gun debates. It has long since been repealed in all but name. That's just as well. I don't really want to see Wal-Mart operating its own military force in the vein of the East India Company of old.

Danth

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firearms will never be banned, you fuckers are crazy to even discuss this, if somebody wants to kill somebody, they will fucking kill them somehow, criminals will always have guns, regardless of the law, and at that point lawful citizens will have no guns while criminals do. crime rate rises, fucks a duck, impeaches osama, fucks a lama

[Hailto]

Another fucking retarded thread by Reapin, how is that rogue coming along pal?

[Danth]

As for rifles vs pistols, there's a lot more than rate of fire. Rifles will penetrate much farther than pistol rounds and also will hit accurately at much greater distance. You can shoot through car doors with a pistol, or through modern engine blocks with a high-power rifle.

Automatic pistols are lousy weapons all told--their purpose is their convenience (a bad weapon on your person being more useful than an excellent rifle you left at home). Only experienced shooters get consistently good results with them. The average, not-well-trained person won't even hit the center of mass of a human size target at 100 feet with even half his pistol shots and might miss the target entirely if he tries to shoot quickly. I know this due to having watched it myself many times. A rifle at that range--or several times as far--is like driving tacks even in the hands of a fairly inept shooter.

Danth

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for rifles vs pistols, there's a lot more than rate of fire. Rifles will penetrate much farther than pistol rounds and also will hit accurately at much greater distance. You can shoot through car doors with a pistol, or through modern engine blocks with a high-power rifle.

Automatic pistols are lousy weapons all told--their purpose is their convenience (a bad weapon on your person being more useful than an excellent rifle you left at home). Only experienced shooters get consistently good results with them. The average, not-well-trained person won't even hit the center of mass of a human size target at 100 feet with even half his pistol shots and might miss the target entirely if he tries to shoot quickly. I know this due to having watched it myself many times. A rifle at that range--or several times as far--is like driving tacks even in the hands of a fairly inept shooter.

Danth

Do you and your wife still play? For some reason I can't remember your SK's name now.

[Danth]

Hailto: We play off and on, mostly been off this summer. We historically play less during the summer and this year has been an unexpectedly busy year for us. We never "quit" so we'll always be back sooner or later. My SK is named Andoric.

Danth