Would you participate in a server wide twitter based batphone for raid mobs? (poll)

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats why u realize the troubles a zerg force assembled face.

it isnt about managing to kill or make casual kill wich can always happen maybe in a repop. but what about normal windows when u ahd to assemble the force wait for neverendin buff request, more people showing up and delaying? 90% of the raid efared or eatin aoes.

Lets face the facts... it takes no strategy to kill anything on this server... A zerg can easily win on a contested raid mob without any key classes. This strategy to get toons of any type to a mob and on FTE is a winner.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets face the facts... it takes no strategy to kill anything on this server... A zerg can easily win on a contested raid mob without any key classes. This strategy to get toons of any type to a mob and on FTE is a winner.

dear iki war i have see you and a horde of players at gore gettin wiped and killed.
First bda kill of gore was during endagered species event of tmo, bda wouldnt have made it without certain wizard wich loves alot rnf.


toc toc alarti are you there? can you insert the pics?.

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dear iki war i have see you and a horde of players at gore gettin wiped and killed.
First bda kill of gore was during endagered species event of tmo, bda wouldnt have made it without certain wizard wich loves alot rnf.


toc toc alarti are you there? can you insert the pics?.

still doesn't take strategy... fear can be a bitch.

how about all the bind rushing attempts/wipes on gore at kc? Those would be more interesting pictures.

[Raavak]

Will people who want to be on this batphone be excluded? Or is it free and open?

[slappytwotoes]

Posts like this are a great example of why Congress doesn't ever get shit done. So much talking, nothing getting organized

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a serious idea for you tassle: Imagine for a second that you allow anyone from Divinity, Taken, Rapture, BDA, etc who wishes to become an honorary member of Forceful Entry. They would function exactly like normal members (app for a week or two, be on the batphone, post on the forums, collect DKP for raid attendance and tracking, spend DKP on items) except they would keep their old guild tags. It's exactly what you are proposing in this thread, but reusing FE's existing machinery. I think this would have two huge advantages for you.

First, you'd get back your old people's guild reputation. Last fall TMO was the evil empire and FE was the rebel alliance trying to break their stranglehold on the raid scene. Now FE is simply another and less successful raid guild. However, if people from the other casual guilds were raiding alongside FE, they would rapidly redevelop those attachments. TMO would be even more the bad guys (not that they care).

Second, I'm sure that even if you restricted the honorary memberships to level 60 toons, between the 7-8 casual guilds you could pick up 20-25 people at least - thats only 3 people per guild. And if things worked out you'd have more people than you know what to do with.

What you are directly proposing in this thread will never work, because for an eq raid to succeed you need a main tank, a good pull squad, and a good raid leader. Thats like 6 people tops; the rest can be warm bodies as long as they have a marginal capacity to follow directions (esp since you don't even need CH chains in Kunark).

^ This idea is clearly the best.. now do it

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will people who want to be on this batphone be excluded? Or is it free and open?

Im not sure members of TMO would be allowed to participiate, but this idea is far from being organized yet. This thread was more meant to gauge interest and collect some ideas. Either way, Im not sure that allowing TMO members would be the most fair/productive idea for a raid force like this. Especially considering TMO has monopolized raid content for the greater portion of 2 years, and they also sell epic loots which is one of the reasons I'd like to start a raid force like this going. People should be able to get their epics without paying out of the ass for them from TMO or any other guild for that matter.

[quido]

Time for an anon alt I guess! =)

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not sure members of TMO would be allowed to participiate, but this idea is far from being organized yet.

Once someone starts with the "four legs good, two legs bad" talk I start to question where the exclusion and control ends. Good luck to you, though.

I was on E'ci and there was some pretty successful "public" raiding. It took a really strong personality and leader to make it happen, though (Ashorty).

[SCB]

Allow any person, from any guild. Have the entire server just zerg everything until everyone realizes that zerging old pixels is the opposite of fun.

Then let's all break into small guilds and issue MechWarrior-style batchalls to see who gets raid targets.

[Borador]

I have led raids in EQ and WoW for big guilds as well as PUGs for a long time, I've also joined a numerous pick up raids. I'm new to p99, so I cannot comment on the claims that TMO are an evil raid force or if everyone else is just jealous. It seems like there are a lot of great individuals and a lot of douchebags on both sides. With that said, here are my comments on this idea:

You MUST have a strong leader or leaders that make quick intelligent decisions. If any decision takes more than 30 seconds you will lose people fast. Once enough people are there, cut it off and go, waiting for "just one more" because they really need an epic will eventually kill pick up raids.

/random for loot! At most add in a modifier for lower levels, but nothing that requires tracking. Tracking DKP for a PUG takes too much time. DKP will turn off more people and cause more issues than /random. Loot is for upgrade only, unless you aren't getting numbers, in which case you open it up to everyone in order to get people in the raid (No drop excluded). This again requires a knowledgeable, decisive, and fair leader.

Lastly, you have to succeed. If you are fighting for FTE, wiping, or wasting time with drama during a raid it will quickly fizzle. Success would almost solely be dependent on a consistent smart leader. If people know that soandso will give them a chance at loot without a headache, they will show up.

The only other thing I'll say is it sounds like TMO kills every road boss within an hour or so? Unless that changed I don't see any pug raids taking off at all, maybe once a month.