Guide to AoE Bard Kiting, here on P99.

[Lazortag]

Not as impressive as Nalkin doing 20+ mobs, but still the best I could do:

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[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is supposed to replicate EQlive.

Why not nerf necros because they can solo frenzy in guk and that's unfair ?

Infact, I hear the biggest problem now is enchanters being able to charm mobs in sky to easily take down bosses that were impossible back in the day on live. We are talking about fucking raid bosses here. Nerf enchanters !!!

I appreciate Haynar's efforts he has put into fixing bards but AoE kiting needs to be looked at. It was much easier to execute on live and some pulls are impossible here like kiting all of seafury island.

Newsflash - Bards should be way OP outdoors

Your entire post is a strawman - why do you assume that Bards are being nerfed on purpose? Things like run speed and large hitboxes are technical issues that affect everyone. Do you really think that the devs aren't actually looking into the issues people have posited? I wouldn't blame them if they just ignored you out of spite considering in every single one of your posts you whine about a class that you don't even play. Seriously.

Also, on another note, have you even been reading this thread? Can you seriously complain about a class that can kite 28 mobs at once, or that can take on the entire spectre island at once? Seriously? Seriously?!?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your entire post is a strawman - why do you assume that Bards are being nerfed on purpose? Things like run speed and large hitboxes are technical issues that affect everyone. Do you really think that the devs aren't actually looking into the issues people have posited? I wouldn't blame them if they just ignored you out of spite considering in every single one of your posts you whine about a class that you don't even play. Seriously.

Also, on another note, have you even been reading this thread? Can you seriously complain about a class that can kite 28 mobs at once, or that can take on the entire spectre island at once? Seriously? Seriously?!?

It's the internet. If someone's not complaining, theyre finding something to complain about.

I seriously believe it's why 75% of the people in R & F are there - unhealthy need for attention, to attack other people or to complain.

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not as impressive as Nalkin doing 20+ mobs, but still the best I could do:

Nice!! Gonna have to give spectres a go myself one day... was that good xp, or are you a very high level?

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, on another note, have you even been reading this thread? Can you seriously complain about a class that can kite 28 mobs at once, or that can take on the entire spectre island at once? Seriously? Seriously?!?

Some classes are more OP than others in certain situations. The ultimate goal is to replicate EQ live.

What if they removed harm shield from necros? Would your argument be "Can you seriously complain about a class that can solo frenzy, or that can fear kite the entire spectre island at once? Seriously? Seriously?!?"

TLDR : you are an idiot

[citizen1080]

I used to aoe kite half the plan of valor at once and tables in pof.....bards should be op !

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice!! Gonna have to give spectres a go myself one day... was that good xp, or are you a very high level?

I'm level 50 (and was 50 when I did that), but I could have done it at least at level 43 when I got my levi cloak (and when I first started kiting spectres) - it's just I had never seen all eight spectres open at once, I usually got to leach off the top 3 (and maybe the torch spawn if someone was feeling generous). I had never tried earlier but I assume it's just a matter of being a level where you have appropriate AC and don't get too many resists from DDD.

Some classes are more OP than others in certain situations. The ultimate goal is to replicate EQ live.

What if they removed harm shield from necros? Would your argument be "Can you seriously complain about a class that can solo frenzy, or that can fear kite the entire spectre island at once? Seriously? Seriously?!?"

TLDR : you are an idiot

You don't get it. My point is not that they should never fix Bards to be more classic, my point is that you should stop complaining and keep your concerns in the appropriate forum. Also I think you have to actually play a Bard before you can have a valid opinion on whether they're "broken" enough that it warrants whining in every thread about it.

Your example about removing harm shield for necros is kind of funny, because I would definitely ridicule you if you complained non-stop about such a minor classic inconsistency.

[Uthgaard]

To be honest, this whole rhetoric is becoming fairly cliché. Anything that isn't classic but actually gives someone an unintended advantage gets abused and goes unreported by the entire server for a year. (Selling mystic cloaks, anyone?)

Bard posts might get looked at more if they kept it to the facts and didn't become 15 page pissing matches. No one wants to dig through your petty arguments to find the little nuggets of factual evidence.

[citizen1080]

Fact : bards were op

Make it so !

=)

[citizen1080]

Fact : bards were op

Make it so !

=)