If you think you are cool on Blue

[big league chew]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think eq pvp is objectively better than pve, you're a confirmed neckbeard mouthbreathing idiot.

yes, having more options is objectively better

come at me bro

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The grief outside of unrest is incredibly over stated on red FYI

Says Checkraise, the nefarious ogre warrior that once murdered an innocent princess on CR for no reason other than to satisfy his own perverted lust for grief. Even before xp loss from pvp death was removed! :O

[big league chew]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says Checkraise, the nefarious ogre warrior that once murdered an innocent princess on CR for no reason other than to satisfy his own perverted lust for grief. Even before xp loss from pvp death was removed! :O

wow what a bastard
i feel sick

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pvp for pve is what's fun not pvp for pvp. If you enjoy being cock blocked by TMO and plat farmers from all content in the game then by all means keep on playing blue.

None of this actually applies to me. And are you really arguing that I am more likely to experience maximum PvE content on the PvP server than I am on the PvE server?

Right.

I don't hold this against all red players, but my only experience on red is being nuke spammed in newb zones by low level casters intent on griefing me because I didn't want to group with them (who groups at level 2 and 3?), and being followed by level 5-8ish melee with twohanders intent on preventing me from leveling. For hours. Sorry, didn't find that fun at all. I'm sure that's not the whole red experience by a long shot, but I think it illustrates the mentality most of us on blue are avoiding. Especially if we don't play enough to be a part of a decent PvP guild.

Ultimately, you're playing in an environment that is PvE. There are a virtually infinite number of gaming choices if I want to play in a PvP environment that are equal to or far better than EQ. The PvE experience and gameplay in EQ, although limited and "dead", is ultimately the only thing "unique" about P99 - PvP is available through a ton of other media. So adding PvP to it actually doesn't change the fact that almost everyone here plays mostly based on PvE content and nostalgia. That's also why so many people don't give a crap about PvP. That's not what most people came here for.

And dammit, the game takes long enough in /played to progress in without having the PvP mentality (I don't care if I receive no benefit from killing you and possibly camping your corpse, I'm going to do it because I feel like it) adding to that. Even granted the xp bonus.

There's nothing to argue. You think PvP is better. Most people disagree. Neither are "right", it's just a preference.

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure this thread was made to further divide the bluebies and the rest of us, and I think it worked :P

Sad but true. If only we could all get along and choose kill each other, or not.

[Halfelfbard]

Copy Halfelf. Take away a % of total lvl, lets say it knocks me down to 55. Cleared bank.

Let the Carnage begin.

[big league chew]

why am i not surprised that the guy writing essays about why pvpers are mouthbreathers just admitted that he got griefed off the server

how bout:
play better
get good
p.s. ur bad

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by big league chew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, having more options is objectively better

come at me bro

If additional options do not add any utility, no, they're actually not objectively better (since not all additional choices add additional utility).

Come at me bro, with your 5th grade reasoning skills.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by big league chew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why am i not surprised that the guy writing essays about why pvpers are mouthbreathers just admitted that he got griefed off the server

how bout:
play better
get good
p.s. ur bad

Hahaha

Thanks for proving blue's point...Go play on your 50-100 player server and leave the adults alone. You're just annoying people.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If additional options do not add any utility, no, they're actually not objectively better (since not all additional choices add additional utility).

Come at me bro, with your 5th grade reasoning skills.

I prefer social depth to measurable utility, in an MMO.