GM's having fun in vegas= FFA. FE Guild Leaders train at rage fire,

[TWDL_Prexus]

TLDR; FE believes it is OK to train someone because they are killing a target that they had already wiped on? Sounds just like FE.. lol

If you feel someone takes your spawned mob, petition. Any intentional trainers need vacations period.

[getsome]

Alarti was not there.

Everyone who was there (the disagreeing parties) agreed the angry vendor flee'd when his hps got low.

Alarti tries to make shit up.

[Fael]

Meh. I logged out of the lair and went back to ae chardok, leaving only sworen in the lair.

I don't think a lvl 60 warrior can solo Rage Fire, not even sworen. And from what i heard in vent, he fought it with yall for a minute or something and then Ploktor brought in all the adds.

Dolic

[getsome]

I was down on the ledge when all that occurred. I thought after the dragon popped, I would have a few minutes to make my way back up.

[Fael]

The funny thing about all this rule talk, is that Forceful Entry people were awarded rage fire by a GM adjudication, when the person logged in, turned in the pearl, /q, and logged into his alt warrior. In the time between him /q and logging in, a group of FE got FTE.

So no, we broke no rules at all as far as im concerned. Instead I tried to take the high road by letting getsome and co have the first shot at it. But they took the low road by not helping sworen who had the aggro at that point.


Dolic

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Wiped twice to ragefire... nothing else in this thread matters.


Please disband them for wiping to ragefire, the mob that get's duo/trio'd on a regular basis.

[stonez138]

I saw TMO wipe to Maestro the other night....Was over 2 groups there and according to your Trolls its not even a raid mob

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Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw TMO wipe to Maestro the other night....Was over 2 groups there and according to your Trolls its not even a raid mob

To maestro or to a hate train?

Obviously a train and obviously done by FE... cause that's what you guys do... train.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pictures of event: http://imgur.com/a/iKfF5
Logs of event: pastebin.com/2apZmhLR
FE involvement: Goodies, Imba, Unbrella, Sveth, Ploktor, Fllash, Raymore, Getsome, etc.

Synopsis:

I log in to find rage fire alone in lair. I call sworen, he logs on, we buff, we move to turn in.... to our surprise Rage Fire attacked us! Forceful Entry decided to pull him to the bottom of the zone and do the turn in there, with fire giants up. This of course is fine; but it comes with the risk that someone may FTE him before they actually have someone in the lair to do the encounter. They of course did not.

We engage knowing nothing about FE's turn in. Five minutes later they come in crying foul, slinging curse words, etc, etc. "Way to represent you're guild, qq, qq, tears galore." Even though we had FTE, even though they don't get credit for turning in a pearl when they aren't even in the lair to engage (because we would have beat them to it if they had done it right), we decide to be nice, and let them have it.

I log; but unfortunately for them Ploktor is such a special player (and not in a good sense) that he brings in a massive train of LDC to train his officers. Such skill. They of course die. We log back in, start rezzing, get ready to engage, and Imba and Raymore come flying in to get FTE with a naked getsome.

So I log again, thinking props to them, that is a clutch recovery on their part, we lost, what ever. But again, they fail. Imba gets feared into giants. They all die.

We then log in, engage with no FE in zone. Five minutes later, Unbrella logs on his monk (who has been banned before for training trak), comes in and drops an entire train specifically on Noobs.

After asking some of their players how they can think themselves justified to act in such ways; and their response was that the train was caused by lazyeyes getting feared while also Imba was feared. This absolutely did not happen. Lazy died in the lair to the AE. They will not have proof of it. Snackies was in lair fd and watched the whole thing go down. Its simply the only thing they can come up with to tell themselves that its not their fault. They really aren't that bad.

Anyways, i normally don't rnf. But I also haven't ever been totally fucked by other people to this extent. When they ninja loot during raids its not quite as personal. Or if both sides have accidental trains of trakanon / fear, etc. That is one thing. I don't hold FE players responsible for stuff that happens on raids. Shit happens, not all of it is intentional. But what happened yesterday was intentional. It was done by an ex-officer, for the benefit and furtherance of the aim of their officers (Goodies, Sveth (sloan i guess), Imba (shinko), etc, etc.

This free for all bs has to stop. This isn't VP. It isn't even fear or trak.

Dolic
60 Bard

We were on the bridge outside the lair when you ran in and ragefire agro'd a TMO rogue. A TMO monk (who was actually joining FE for the kill) then tanked it and the rogue logged out. We were fine to just let Ragefire attack us while we buffed up, but the person on the rogue logged on his warrior and started to kill ragefire. When ragefire started to run, the warrior said good luck and logged out.

The rules about spawning ragefire are highly debated, but the trend is you get to agro him once within 20 minutes of spawn. Not wanting to have some bullshit rule lawyering pulled on us, I stayed in game with agro on ragefire, who was slowly being killed by a monk. A TMO warrior brought a summoning mob to low hp flee and logged out in order to be a dick, causing the first train.

Then Imba and Getsome started to Duo ragefire, which is easy, even with a naked cleric. However at the start of the fight a TMO rogue also felt the need to engage someone else's raid mob, a mob you claim you were letting us have. This rogue was feared and I watched him run out of the lair and out the door. How the train came back to the lair is something I don't think even the GMs will be able to determine.

Then TMO engaged ragefire, while FE started to CR back to the lair. I didn't see the train that then killed TMO. Then FE logged in and killed him.

Make sure to tell the whole story when you are going to bitch about someone else 'dicking you over'. You had a guildie who was in SolB to kill ragefire with TMO and he was in your vent when you agro'd the human form. You knew it wasn't your turn in, and claim you offered to give us a shot at the dragon, while at the same time you continued to dps the human form with zero intent of actually killing him.

Have fun with this thread I guess.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were on the bridge outside the lair when you ran in and ragefire agro'd a TMO rogue. A TMO monk (who was actually joining FE for the kill) then tanked it and the rogue logged out. We were fine to just let Ragefire attack us while we buffed up, but the person on the rogue logged on his warrior and started to kill ragefire. When ragefire started to run, the warrior said good luck and logged out.

The rules about spawning ragefire are highly debated, but the trend is you get to agro him once within 20 minutes of spawn. Not wanting to have some bullshit rule lawyering pulled on us, I stayed in game with agro on ragefire, who was slowly being killed by a monk. A TMO warrior brought a summoning mob to low hp flee and logged out in order to be a dick, causing the first train.

To add perspective, once sworen logged back in and started fighting, me and him were discussing the situation in vent. He felt that the "highly debated" rage fire rulings, made it our mob because we had FTE and no one was in lair. I was discussing things with Getsome, and sworen aggred to give it up and let you have it. I told getsome, ok its yours; but then you guys didn't take over. Even though i told you to in tells, and in say, that is yours, good luck. Sworen couldn't do anything at that point so he remained attacking it until it fled. He then camped and said good luck.

The thing, again, that I don't understand is why you guys didn't snare it, or take the aggro from Sworen to begin with. And mobs don't summon you unless you engaged it. So, if you had engaged it, then why the heck would you not snare it? (I had already logged at that point.)

Dolic