Drama

[Wrei]

Perhaps this whole bitchfest would have been avoided if the enchanter had simply informed the group that he was zoning to heal the pet and NOT leaving the camp. How was the group suppose to surmise he'd be back (or did he tell them before he zoned). The server rules was made to prevent greedy players of jacking up multiple spawns (mainly enchanters). The rules are pretty clear cut it does not allow for X class to be able to zone from Y camp for ownership. When an enchanter can solo every named mob from dead side + the king (with bind/gate), you need these kind of rules (of sitting in front of a spawn) to make it fair for all groups seeking to claim a camp.

When a group loses a camp, you lose a camp. Making the "deal" in the first place was wrong, if the enchanter had wiped trying to break the room and that group showed up. Do you think the group would have made a "deal" with the enchanter? Please, they would have told his greedy ass to take a hike simply by virtue of the effort it took the group to get there. So in that respect, making a deal was retarded to begin with.

If you are going to make a player agreement, it best be pretty explicit as to how it goes. Zoning out at any time is a pretty significant deal, not because it heals your pet but because an enchanter can lay claim to a different camp by gating (yes i know in this instance it only was for 20sec or so). You cannot however make up new rules to satisfy every single fucking instances. Make them simple, sit your ass down if you want to claim something (it's really not rocket science).

On the issue of efficiency, when you have a group breathing down your neck, zoning out to heal is about the most retarded thing to do. Enchanters can solo fine without the need to gate. Zoning makes it easier and less of a hassle but comes with the risk of losing a camp.

As for decency, the decent thing to do would have been to let the group have the camp. You know, the guys who can't solo the camp and could even get xp. Back in my youth when I was hanging out with my froglok buddies, I made it a point to always give a camp to a full group of people. Especially if they are looking to actually get xp from a camp, I'm sure you can solo the king camp anytime. Just suck it up and move on...

[soup]

So I dunno, clearing a fully spawned camp with no apparent signs of anyone camping it and then offering it back to the group after 1 round of spawns
OR
Making a deal to let someone kill the round of spawns but just moving in and killing it all anyway when the enchanter is gone for a few seconds.

pretty tough call on what the real douche baggery is!

BTW if they really placed any merit at ALL in their deal they had made they would have asked the enchanter what he was doing instead of just trucking on in.

It really all just comes down to whether or not you place any value on your word and any agreements you make with it.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I dunno, clearing a fully spawned camp with no apparent signs of anyone camping it and then offering it back to the group after 1 round of spawns
OR
Making a deal to let someone kill the round of spawns but just moving in and killing it all anyway when the enchanter is gone for a few seconds.

pretty tough call on what the real douche baggery is!

BTW if they really placed any merit at ALL in their deal they had made they would have asked the enchanter what he was doing instead of just trucking on in.

It really all just comes down to whether or not you place any value on your word and any agreements you make with it.

They kept their word. He had his opportunity. He failed.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They kept their word. He had his opportunity. He failed.

Except for the part where they didn't even let him engage the mob, rofl

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the part where they didn't even let him engage the mob, rofl

Except for the part WHERE HE LEFT THE FUCKING ZONE. He failed. You play a solo class, don't you?

[Icecometus]

If the OP had explained what he was doing by zoning out I think that all this could have been avoided. The subtle nature of enchanter soloing may not be common knowledge to the rest of the population that needs to group to get phat loots [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[soup]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the part WHERE HE LEFT THE FUCKING ZONE. He failed. You play a solo class, don't you?

His only mistake there was giving them too much credit and thinking they would actually honor the agreement they made instead of just moving in after 30 seconds.

I'm sure next time he'll just park the pet and let it regen for 10 minutes and make the group wait even longer instead of trying to speed things up for everyone.

[Stepy]

What ever happened to common courtesy, when you know a person or group wiped why not let them have camp back we used to do it in the old days before greed ruined the game.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Stepy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What ever happened to common courtesy, when you know a person or group wiped why not let them have camp back we used to do it in the old days before greed ruined the game.

This doesn't exist anymore; everyone wants large epeen.

Also, the server rules are a joke. The only rule that should exist is:

1) Don't be a douchebag

but then we wouldn't have very much population...

[Dantes]

How come you didn't just send a tell to somebody in that group?

/tell groupmember Gonna zone so my pet can regen, still taking the mob, brb kthnxbai