when will platinum

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by tommydgun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they would only be able to hide their plat in items if they knew it was coming. not saying this is the best option but if it was stealth taxed it would work undoubtedly

i also want to thank sirken for coming to this thread of a very popular topic currently and giving legitimate input and concern. thanks man.

problem is many of the richest players currently have most of their value in items, not plat. ive seen accounts with bags full of stacks of diamonds for example. i've seen an account with 9 manastones on it, etc. its unavoidable because they already do it.

and your welcome! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Itap]

Sirk, open the casino, and instead of plat rewards, hand out certain No-Drop items (Guise, oogly stick, ect). Many, many people will play to have a chance to win the items and also a nice way to sink plat.

[Byrjun]

Firepot bind is overrated. No pot to Velious, and being able to bind on the fly is about as valuable to me as being bound at pots. In a lot of ways, Overthere (via hammer) is more convenient than Cabilis or DL.

[feanan]

I think the gm's should just go all cyprus on the server, and just seize all pp
over 100k

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lojik]

First I would like to say that the p99 staff has done a great job with the server... really enjoying it.
I do think there is an excess of platinum floating around which should be addressed, as it can be quite daunting for new players with increased prices on items. Seen some great ideas in this thread, particularly the titles and guises, as this doesn't really grant players an advantage in gameplay. For those saying that these solutions are "not classic," I would like to point out that there are several things that make this server "not classic" that are mostly out of the devs hands.


1) Population-live servers had peak populations of 2500, p99 rarely gets half that. Plus who knows how many are just afk.

2) Time frame- vanilla was out for a year before kunark or so, with velious 6 months later. 3.5 years later we're still on kunark.

3) hindsight- just about everyone on p99 knows or has access to any information they need regarding best way to level, spawn mobs, shortcuts to take, etc. Back on live it took time for people to figure this stuff out. How long after kunark was released on p99 did it take for someone to get their first epic? Hours?

In short, I think a non-classic solution could be appropriate, just need to be careful about what is implemented.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do think there is an excess of platinum floating around which should be addressed, as it can be quite daunting for new players with increased prices on items.

I don't exactly understand this approach. Why should a new player be able to purchase a cheap FBSS, Fungi, or manastone without considerable investment of time? These are high-end items. Savvy players will find ways to make money and buy them fairly quickly anyway.

At the same time, a newbie melee can buy a .5 ratio 1hander or .75 ratio 2hander for less than 250pp. There are tons of affordable items floating around that have been relatively untouched by the last several months of inflation... which isn't exactly daunting for new players.

I had to sell one of my characters to get my first fungi. Shit isn't supposed to be cheap or free. I do wish they were more reasonably priced but I don't think it warrants a non-classic solution.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't exactly understand this approach. Why should a new player be able to purchase a cheap FBSS, Fungi, or manastone without considerable investment of time? These are high-end items. Savvy players will find ways to make money and buy them fairly quickly anyway.

At the same time, a newbie melee can buy a .5 ratio 1hander or .75 ratio 2hander for less than 250pp. There are tons of affordable items floating around that have been relatively untouched by the last several months of inflation... which isn't exactly daunting for new players.

I had to sell one of my characters to get my first fungi. Shit isn't supposed to be cheap or free. I do wish they were more reasonably priced but I don't think it warrants a non-classic solution.

So selling characters for plat is classic? That's actually leads to another big reason this server is not classic, no subscription fee or cost to purchase game/ expansions. Means people are more likely to grief or break rules because they can just start another account no charge. Raid guilds can buy bots and exploit with them cause they still have main chars if they get banned. I personally would prefer guises/ casinos to account selling.

Also, cheap is a pretty relative term, so is "considerable investment of time." New players aren't gonna walk around with fbss or fungi even with these plat sinks, especially players who are competently new to the game.

[porigromus]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't exactly understand this approach. Why should a new player be able to purchase a cheap FBSS, Fungi, or manastone without considerable investment of time? These are high-end items. Savvy players will find ways to make money and buy them fairly quickly anyway.

At the same time, a newbie melee can buy a .5 ratio 1hander or .75 ratio 2hander for less than 250pp. There are tons of affordable items floating around that have been relatively untouched by the last several months of inflation... which isn't exactly daunting for new players.

I had to sell one of my characters to get my first fungi. Shit isn't supposed to be cheap or free. I do wish they were more reasonably priced but I don't think it warrants a non-classic solution.

And to add to this post, it's all relative. The new person in reality isn't putting any more time in than a person that started earlier. Price is higher to purchase things but that goes for selling as well. A new person now can potentially make more money now than before.

[Uberthings]

I'd happily buy a guise for 500k for at least one character personally.