Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Duik]

For you yes, your inherant superiority is an obvious advantage.

[Wakanda]

What the hell happened in this thread for it to be 130 pages long lmao. Can Grok give me the TL;DR?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the hell happened in this thread for it to be 130 pages long lmao. Can Grok give me the TL;DR?

Simple formula really - Controversial topic plus deathsilkymist copy/paste/nonsense = 1000+ posts.

The DSM part is obvious, but the controversy comes from people using a 2012 kunark post as the scoring metric for solo kills. It needs to evolve like any other document does, and it will.

[Ripqozko]

DSM doesn't even play the game


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[Duik]

Everybody wants to be right. Certain people cannot agree, even if they theoretically do.
People are different with differing expectations/assumptions and cannot believe that their take is in any way incorrect.
Also everyone else is an idiot/cuck/arsehole/woke etc.

That is near enuf.

[kjs86z2]

lol i went on vacation a week and a half ago

come back, 115 pages, almost 400 replies from DSM

sounds about right

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol i went on vacation a week and a half ago

come back, 115 pages, almost 400 replies from DSM

sounds about right

Here’s a concise summary of the discussion in that thread:

�� Core Topic: Solo kill of the Myconid Spore King by a Monk ("OP")
The original poster videoed killing Fungi King solo on a monk with no consumables, earning a [S] solo rating, though there's dispute over whether that qualifies as S+ given a wiki update post-OP.

Debate 1: "Pocket cleric"/buff controversy
Multiple users argue whether it's acceptable to use outside buffs (e.g., pocket clerics) in solo challenges.

bcbrown and others express confusion about "pocket healer" usage and note the topic erupts later in the thread


Some (like Zuranthium and Stryker85) contend that allowing buffs makes melee bosses actually beatable, since pure buffs/no consumable kills for melee are “literally impossible”

Stryker85 challenged claims that many support buff restrictions, noting only “one single other person” held that view


Debate 2: Math and parsing integrity (DSM vs critics)
A user attacked DSM (DeathsSilkyMist), accusing him of ignoring math flaws and being overly argumentative .

DSM countered, identifying a regen oversight in OP's fight calculations (HP tick sources: fungi, ring, Iksar regen), which affected total heal amount.

Critics accused DSM of trolling and derailing; DSM responded that his suspension (on the official wiki) was deserved .

Overall tone
The thread regularly devolves into personal jabs, with heavy trolling, derailing, and distrust:

Calls like “Typical DSM behavior” and accusations of “constantly patrolling RnF and filling it with spam” .

Despite these distractions, others attempted to get back on topic about ranking the kill (S vs S+), regen math accuracy, and the legitimacy of outside buffs.

�� Takeaways
Solo monk kill is impressive, but its classification ([S] vs [S+]) is under debate due to rule changes.

There's a heated divide: whether solo challenges should allow any external buffs, with no strong consensus—only a few vocal proponents on each side.

The thread has been heavily sidetracked by community drama, especially surrounding DSM and criticisms of his debate style and calculations.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a heated divide: whether solo challenges should allow any external buffs, with no strong consensus—only a few vocal proponents on each side.

Nobody is arguing if outside buffs should be "allowed" in solo challenge. It's allowed, it's just a different tier, and there is absolutely strong consensus that it should be a different tier.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is absolutely strong consensus that it should be a different tier.

To the contrary, I'm not sure there's even a consensus that there should be tiers.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure there's even a consensus that there should be tiers.

Of course there is.

Consensus does not mean 100% agreement or even 80% agreement. No law in the world would ever get passed (aside from in dictatorships) if that was the case. Most things get passed by barely having a majority, and 2/3'rds majority is universally recognized as consensus.