Chira numbuh wan!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

If ya’ll watch the vid I posted from Hoover, who’s very qualified and experienced when it comes to debriefing pilot tragedies, about the crash, he summarizes it at the end as an error made by the Blackhawk helicopter pilot

Who also isn’t trans, despite a lie being spread around Twatter that they were

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

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The Blackhawk helicopter pilot was a woman trainee with 500 hours flying the helicopter

Her trainer was a male flight instructor with 1000 hours flying helicopters, from what I’ve heard

The fault should, and likely will, land mostly on the Blackhawk helicopter flight instructor. Trainees are supposed to make mistakes. Instructors are supposed to keep those mistakes from killing people

[Ciderpress]

Yeah my feeling is it's definitely on the helicopter crew mostly. Though planes make last minute ditches all the time if the wind is a little too strong, 10 feet above the ground right before touchdown, so they aren't completely off the hook either.

The plane was just doing what every other plane ever has done landing there, except avoiding the giant helicopter.

I think I get why these investigations take so long now.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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The Blackhawk helicopter pilot was a woman trainee with 500 hours flying the helicopter

Her trainer was a male flight instructor with 1000 hours flying helicopters, from what I’ve heard

The fault should, and likely will, land mostly on the Blackhawk helicopter flight instructor. Trainees are supposed to make mistakes. Instructors are supposed to keep those mistakes from killing people

I think it was an accident... but if it turns out the tower was understaffed, then that's the reason this happened.

TBH I would prefer these flight controllers can assure me that they can prevent two planes from colliding at an airport or I wont ever fuckn fly again.

I think it could be something on the military's side, because we've had 4 blackhawk crashes in the last 4 years, and 2 in the last 20 before that.

[Ciderpress]

There are generally way more helicopter crashes than plane crashes because they are fundamentally different aircraft- you trade off safety for maneuverability in a helicopter, which is why they generally have dedicated ATC for each, and in this case it sounds like one guy was splitting duty in that regard.

[shovelquest]

Sure but there have been 4 blackhawk crashes since 2020, and 2 in the 20 years before that.

Either they all hit the warranty or we're doing something different IMO.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure but there have been 4 blackhawk crashes since 2020, and 2 in the 20 years before that.

Either they all hit the warranty or we're doing something different IMO.

The Japanese sounding one happened in Japan.

[Ekco]

it's usually the Chinooks, feel like ive seen 20 different news stories about them going down in training accidents and other shit since Iraq/Afghanistan days

i live near a Bell plant so every once n awhile you'll see a couple V-280 flying around, and all the predecessors before it, those things are dope as fuck

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[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Japanese sounding one happened in Japan.

Well that just shows that our military had standards others didnt, and the current one doesn't either.

What changed?

What's changed in the last idk, 12 years, 8, 4?

What major military changes have we made in that timeframe that we can say had no effect whatsoever, because it turns out it's DEI?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that just shows that our military had standards others didnt, and the current one doesn't either.

What changed?

What's changed in the last idk, 12 years, 8, 4?

What major military changes have we made in that timeframe that we can say had no effect whatsoever, because it turns out it's DEI?

The ROC one happened in the ROC.