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Old 10-09-2022, 12:05 PM
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eh, vaccines are natural, we made them by control over our environment. I don't make arguments based on "appeal to nature" the good or bad can be explained away by other means.

Like fertilizer, is it good or bad because people made it? Its objectively good because we now don't have wars over bird shit anymore.
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Old 10-09-2022, 12:24 PM
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Old 10-09-2022, 12:31 PM
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I don't make arguments based on "appeal to nature" the good or bad can be explained away by other means.
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Our fundamental design gives us providence over our environment, that is the natural state of things.
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Old 10-09-2022, 12:38 PM
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Bit of stretch. I specifically said the good or bad can be explained away by other means. Natural/not natural does not mean inherently good/bad per your debate club example.
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Old 10-09-2022, 12:45 PM
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Bit of stretch. I specifically said the good or bad can be explained away by other means. Natural/not natural does not mean inherently good/bad per your debate club example.
You first did an appeal to nature. Then you said it can be explained by other means.

It's fine, we all backpedal sometimes.

I also see even human inventions as extensions of the natural world. I believe "the left" is wrong to oppose nuclear power, but correct to oppose the usage of nuclear weapons.
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Old 10-09-2022, 12:57 PM
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You first did an appeal to nature. Then you said it can be explained by other means.

It's fine, we all backpedal sometimes.

I also see even human inventions as extensions of the natural world. I believe "the left" is wrong to oppose nuclear power, but correct to oppose the usage of nuclear weapons.
I never made a comment to the good or bad. Unless an appeal to nature means an observation of nature.

I agree with you on this.
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Old 10-09-2022, 01:12 PM
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Our fundamental design gives us providence over our environment, that is the natural state of things.
I realize "I did not say the thing I said" works with Trump supporters but that does not work on rational people
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Old 10-09-2022, 01:22 PM
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Old 10-09-2022, 01:23 PM
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I realize "I did not say the thing I said" works with Trump supporters but that does not work on rational people
Where is the argument of good or bad? Keep trying
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Old 10-09-2022, 01:28 PM
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Where is the argument of good or bad? Keep trying
Right there, in the words you said. You aren't a person I am trying to convince of anything, that quote of your words is not for your benefit.
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