Michael Brown

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's like the old joke/question "are you an alcoholic"
whether you answer yes or no, it proves you are one.

if you are white, you need to be full of white guilt, and admit you are a racist.
if you don't admit that, it just proves just how big of a racist you are!

you lose either way. give up now.

Complete misconstrual of anything I've written based on a completely false premise. I can easily deny being an alcoholic without being accused of being one. This is a non-argument.

I can also easily deny being racist while acknowledging that I am a white male. If you all love to reduce everything to narratives so much, then here you go. This is a completely false narrative with asbolutely no basis in reality.

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This may be a P99 record for most double standards in a single post.

Resorting to baseless assertions since you have no actual rebuttal to anything? How disappointing.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What forms?

Do you even know what the word subjugation means? Have you heard of concentration camps? Slavery? Women's suffrage? Do you even know what oppression means? Again, books. Read them. Ones with facts about things.

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Those links don't falsify the statement "caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet."

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reality is that homo sapiens is a highly competitive species, and men and women of all races are capable of acts of tremendous cruelty towards "the others". You say Caucasians are the most oppressive; I say Caucasians are the most successful. Potato potahto. The reality is that European civilization is by far the most racially and religiously tolerant one out there.

Who the hell are you people arguing against? These were never points of contention. Are your reading comprehension skills seriously this poor?

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny thing is, I see white Americans as far more racist than we were as a group 10-20 years ago, precisely because we are tired of getting beat over the head with how evil we are by you moronic social justice warriors.

Ah, I should've seen that coming. The old, tired "SJW" argument - that anyone who can argue for the oppressed is carrying around a huge weight of white guilt that they need to exonerate in the form of accusation against anyone who isn't oppressed. I'm glad you said it though, because now I know I can immediately ignore everything you have to say, and I'll only be better off for it.

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really sounds like you've only ever picked up ONE history book in your life. Your post literally oozes that Zinn historical narrative and nothing else... I feel mildly sad for you, I'm sorry to say, though you aren't the only one here who sounds like a faithful Zinn disciple. There is hope for you all. Try broadening your horizons a little. Pick up some other books and open your minds -- I promise it's worth it.

Every college professor, every scholar, every well-read and literate person I've ever known to be a sane and well-adjusted person understands the oppressive past of caucasian people. It's not a point that's open for debate among anyone who can call themselves educated whatsoever. It's a point that's open for debate on Project 1999 Rants and Flames, because this forum is teeming with pseudos like Kagatob, people who want to argue for the sake of hearing themselves argue like Patriam and Raev, and people who apparently don't understand anything at all like yourself.

[Patriam1066]

Paul, the only one who doesn't understand anything is you. Ever heard of the Polio Vaccine? How about clean drinking water?

Please guess as to where these advancements came from, and stop cherry picking. No shit white peope have done evil things. What you fail to recognize is, so has everyone else. More importantly, the world is becoming a better place every day because of the industrial and scientific revolutions that took place in the western world post 1800.

Seriously, the Polio Vaccine alone has probably saved more lives than all of the people killed by imperialism.

[Whirled]

tl;dr ..... but I did stay at a Holiday inn express last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCLuIwuVgQ

[Nuktari]

the earth is not the center of the universe.

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[BulletCatcher]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That wall off bulllshit, see previous post.

Mmmhhmm... mmhhmmmm.... uhhhhhmmmmmm..... I see....

Paul, take this energy and advocate on a real medium instead of an obscure game forum. You're stepping in bullshit on your way to feed trolls.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those links don't falsify the statement "caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet."

Probably because that statement is not falsifiable? How were you planning to measure "oppressive" anyway? It's like you use these words and you don't know what they mean.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti

Who the hell are you people arguing against? These were never points of contention. Are your reading comprehension skills seriously this poor?

In other words, you didn't understand my post, so you called me an idiot.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti

The old, tired "SJW" argument

No, my point was your actions are not having the effect you would like. With a bit of a flame in there, cause hey, its RNF.

Free tip: stop regurgitating what you learned from your WASP/Western Civilization hating freshman history professor and start thinking.

[paulgiamatti]

Free tip: learn to read properly before attempting to rebuke things.

[Raev]

I accept your graceful surrender, Paul.

[paulgiamatti]

Not to the likes of you I won't. And especially not to Patriam, who you simply cannot argue against without him invoking a straw man. I hate the straw man argument. I really do, but he forces you into it. It's almost like he just imagines things that you might say, and then in his own mind passes them off as things that you already said, and then proceeds to argue against that. It's so fucking irritating.

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Free tip: stop regurgitating what you learned from your WASP/Western Civilization hating [B]freshman[/B ]history professor and start thinking.

HAHA joke's on you! I get all my information from my sophomore poli-sci professor!