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[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+ Sev/Tal/CT

And a vs kill with shenanigans, vadd got to tank him twice lol

[Cochonou]

Bump for your efforts fighting the evil

[kotton05]

+Cazic thule kill with TMO trying to snipe fte lol

[Funkutron5000]

+ Talendor

[Buriedpast]

Plane of Fear today is a distinct example of why FE are the good guys.

Having 10 people in zone trying to take FTE, while 35 FeIb are running to a mob is a disgrace.

[Brut]

Or just take that to RnF where it can be properly ignored.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by p99Mule [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it make you a good guy to take someone elses fte'd mob and train it away, thereby botching an engage?
Also, discuss your raid suspension from Gore last week. Good guy status?
Not knocking on you, I just prefer truth to lies and propaganda. I'm actually really interested in your response.

with ct we backed off once you got fte, how is anything wrong that?

(he's mad folks)

to clarify gore, FE/IB wiped, THEN tmo wiped, then FE/iB pulled again and while tmo was wiped they sniped fte when dragon was in camp about to be malleted by our tank. then we killed. grats orb of tishani TMO.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by p99Mule [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it make you a good guy to take someone elses fte'd mob and train it away, thereby botching an engage?
Also, discuss your raid suspension from Gore last week. Good guy status?
Not knocking on you, I just prefer truth to lies and propaganda. I'm actually really interested in your response.

This is more of an rnf kind of topic, but I'll explain since you asked here.

Were you there for Gore or did someone just tell you about what happened? Because the situation looked pretty good for FE/IB, when it comes to being "good guys". TMO wiped to gore and then they sniped FTE while their raid was still rezing. Our puller brought him all the way across DL, from gore's spawn point, and Gore was about 20 feet from our fully buffed and ready camp (we killed him in like 20 seconds, no deaths). Pulling mobs with a stalking probe glitches the FTE message (doesn't give one), and we didn't understand the glitch properly so tmo was able to snipe FTE from us. We made a poor decision to kill gore anyway, based on not really understanding the eye pull glitch. It was an honest mistake and we were punished. So essentially, we killed Gore for tmo, and were suspended from the next one which they got for free. This isn't lies or propaganda, it's actually just what happened. It was nothing malicious or intentional.

CT was similar, our whole raid runs into CT and a tmo guy runs in and snipes fte after our first person in gets DTd. We then called for the raid to back off and everyone camped out, since it wasn't our engage anymore. Which is the only thing we could do. Despite having FTE, tmo did not engage CT. He stayed at 100%, running all over the place. Our main tank didn't even build agro, so if TMO wanted to hold CT and engage right there, they could have with ease.

We literally never try to snipe FTE from them. All our engages are legit and we are ready to kill the mob. They try to exploit the FTE mechanic and snipe our engage on basically every single pull. We messed up on gore due to confusion about the stalking probe bug. On CT this kinda stuff just happens due to how many times he DTs on engage, and how chaotic everything is with the train and whatnot. So there you have it. If this makes us look like the bad guys, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by p99Mule [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seem to remember FE/IB constantly taking the law into their own hands. Deciding to kill Gore when TMO clearly had the FTE message, reminds me of another time you did the same some Talendor as I recall. This is repeated bad behavior further clarified by your main tank using aggro clickies and then kiting ct away from TMO's raid. You can only play the "we dumb" card so many times.

Maybe it sounds like playing dumb, but there is known to be flaws with the fte message. We made a mistake on gore which we payed hugely for. Again, I don't know how this makes us bad guys when it was our engage that was sniped (there was no way tmo could have killed it at that point), and we lost potentially two gore kills because of it. On Talendor we pulled a kite off a kiter, which is allowed. No GMs were there and our evidence wasn't sufficient to win a decision, I don't think this was a mistake at all.

Since CT is still recent I won't comment on it. If you're a TMO member, then you know how messy fear is, and how fte works when CT DT's multiple times. If you were there, then you know what happened. There were more shady things that happened in there, but this is not the place to discuss them. This will be my last response here. I tried to be fair about what I saw. If you have more questions PM me if you want answers.

[Fuddwin]

Poor TMO/Alarti/Jeremy/"p99mule" (Variety)

GJ on CT/Talendor this morning/last night... Versaager voice box ftw!! (Oly)