TMO resort to hacking in VP

[Ele]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ITT: Vigilante madbads resort to trying to do the staff's job for them.

That's even the first raid rule.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Players are not permitted to take the law into their own hands.

[falkun]

This is RNF, "the court of public opinion" if you will. I, and I hope the others that post here, do not expect the staff to make decisions based upon this thread. But winning the courtroom of public opinion pays off in its own ways, as TMO's once-mighty RNF troll-force understood before they backed themselves into the corner they are now in.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Hurley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jeremy you are better than this.

Can I app FE on my necro please? Richest twink on the server - I will bring you great prestige!

[47shadesofgay]

Ele could you please explain the point you're trying to make.

TMO started using hoops to down raid targets, IB thought this was wrong (rightly) so in order to accelerate their demise they decided to use them just as blatantly until the serverstaff took notice and fixed them. That is what your proof shows.

What else were you getting at?

[quido]

I would rather admit that one of our members is showboating dipshit than lie about 30 members in vehement and pathetic denial.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And now we're back to getsome's comment that your examples are utter bullshit. This is a game with rules and no real property is damaged because of someone's in-game actions. Thus getsome's NFL example is much more appropriate: you break an NFL rule on the field, your team backs up 10 yards, you don't wear your pink sweatbands during breast cancer month, the commish fines you (individually)

In getsome's NFL analogy the rules are also clearly spelled out for each specific situation. We do not enjoy the luxury of such clearly defined rules to govern this specific situation. (If there are clear sentencing guidelines for this situation, then I am unaware and would amend my arguments in light of them).

My analogy was used for a very specific reason. That is, this appears to be a novel situation in which punishment precedence seems opaque at best. It stands to reason, that perhaps there is a preexisting concept that has already been well-developed that we may draw from. It is a cop out to think that just because it's a "game" that the concept cannot be applied.

Is my example necessarily more valid than any of the others presented? Emphatically, no. It was presented as material to consider and ruminate upon so that the discussion might be better equipped to handle the situation by understanding analogous concepts.

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would rather admit that one of our members is showboating dipshit than lie about 30 members in vehement and pathetic denial.

Don't mince words, you would rather do whatever it took to secure pixels. Always have, and always will.

[quido]

TR was responsible for the public RnF cry campaign about them that catalyzed their nerfage.

It's unfortunate that TR couldn't fight Trak without wiping for several weeks after the nerf, though.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe we should just lie and claim we had no idea it was happening, like you! I have seen it with my own two eyes - sorry I don't have a fraps. If you thinking I'm making this up, you don't know me very well obviously.

Whatever happens with Aiaus, I hope this drama will help to eliminate the concocted double standard you guys are presenting. If you guys want to instapoof and the staff says that's Ok for now, let's do it - you'll get owned =) And if nobody can do it anymore, that's fine with me too - you'll have an even tougher time next time we train Nexona on you for hours and hours.

But stop with the fucking bullshit please, liars. Your people have been doing this for weeks and if you don't know that, you're maybe not liars but you're fucking retarded.

This is pointless, the precedent has been set YEARS ago. If you catch someone in the act, eyewitnessing isn't enough - bring fraps, screenshots, logs and the kitchen sink along. An alarming percentage of people in this server have witnessed punishable grief, yet pleas fall on deaf ears because they have no 'proof'. And now you're asking people to take you for your word.

TL;DR

If you WANTED to play by the book/rules, and actually rub it into FE (or XXX or YYY or who ever accused you of wrongdoing), you would have petitioned/asked the staff about this "creative use" of IP exemption YEARS ago, since you admit knowing it for that long. Just in case some cameraman happens to lurk around when you do it. But you alreay knew what the answer would be, right?

[quido]

Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't mince words, you would rather do whatever it took to secure pixels. Always have, and always will.

That's not really true, shades, and you have no good reason to believe that. I may be a cutthroat competitor but I desire no ill-gained victories - they're nothing to be proud of.