TMO kills 3 Traks in a row / Remains Uncontested in VP

[Tasslehofp99]

I was the 3rd person logged into trak lair when he spawned, we could use 6 ppl to hold an engage for like 3 minutes if we wanted to, but we don't. We engage, position, wait for ae, and then run our raid in, because we dont have 50 people minimum at every raid to make trakanon trivial, so things have to be done carefully. Does this mean we aren't entitled to attempt mobs we engage first?


The point I'm trying to make was if we had fte with one person or 5, what right do you have to engage that mob before he is dead?


Does this mean FE must emulate TMO in every way to deserve mobs they are first to engage on? Should we keep recruiting until nothing is challenging anymore?

To me that is not fun and ruins the game. Or are guilds not allowed to have fair competition without
growing to zerg force sizes?

In this case we weren't even given a chance to run our raid in cleanly, so we hesitated out of fear of accidentally training TMO and you guys capitalized and stole our mob.


The monks in lair are used to pull juggs aside so our raid doesn't get trained as well as take the first AE, if you are allowed to tag mobs off of us simply because you have more members and can spare people to kite juggs in circles or just get beaten by them while you zerg trak down then the raiding scene is already fucked and has no hopes of survival.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the 3rd person logged into trak lair when he spawned, we could use 6 ppl to hold an engage for like 3 minutes if we wanted to, but we don't. We engage, position, wait for ae, and then run our raid in, because we dont have 50 people minimum at every raid to make trakanon trivial, so things have to be done carefully. Does this mean we aren't entitled to attempt mobs we engage first?


The point I'm trying to make was if we had fte with one person or 5, what right do you have to engage that mob before he is dead?


Does this mean FE must emulate TMO in every way to deserve mobs they are first to engage on? Should we keep recruiting until nothing is challenging anymore?

To me that is not fun and ruins the game. Or are guilds not allowed to have fair competition without
growing to zerg force sizes?

In this case we weren't even given a chance to run our raid in cleanly, so we hesitated out of fear of accidentally training TMO and you guys capitalized and stole our mob.


The monks in lair are used to pull juggs aside so our raid doesn't get trained as well as take the first AE, if you are allowed to tag mobs off of us simply because you have more members and can spare people to kite juggs in circles or just get beaten by them while you zerg trak down then the raiding scene is already fucked and has no hopes of survival.

Flopping and standing isnt fte its raid interference. You should be suspended

[bouncerr 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the 3rd person logged into trak lair when he spawned, we could use 6 ppl to hold an engage for like 3 minutes if we wanted to, but we don't. We engage, position, wait for ae, and then run our raid in, because we dont have 50 people minimum at every raid to make trakanon trivial, so things have to be done carefully. Does this mean we aren't entitled to attempt mobs we engage first?


The point I'm trying to make was if we had fte with one person or 5, what right do you have to engage that mob before he is dead?


Does this mean FE must emulate TMO in every way to deserve mobs they are first to engage on? Should we keep recruiting until nothing is challenging anymore?

To me that is not fun and ruins the game. Or are guilds not allowed to have fair competition without
growing to zerg force sizes?

In this case we weren't even given a chance to run our raid in cleanly, so we hesitated out of fear of accidentally training TMO and you guys capitalized and stole our mob.


The monks in lair are used to pull juggs aside so our raid doesn't get trained as well as take the first AE, if you are allowed to tag mobs off of us simply because you have more members and can spare people to kite juggs in circles or just get beaten by them while you zerg trak down then the raiding scene is already fucked and has no hopes of survival.

Lol the "50 people" always comes into play, yet 90 % of the time FE has just as many if not more people. If your a serious guild, you do whatever you can to win, if that means kiting juggs, you gotta do it?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your force was 9 people..... derper. Also, good job mobilizing to tal :P

That makes no sense, when I logged in we had 28 in /who...this was while our monk engaged and just prior to trak being tagged off of him. Honestly its cool, just wonder what this ruling means for the future of raiding. If a guild engages a mob or pulls a mob is there a set time now that they are given to attack the mob? If so, how long? That's all I want to know.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flopping and standing isnt fte its raid interference. You should be suspended

Yeah I agree, but this isn't what was happening on this particular encounter. If it did do you think I would be the only fe member pushing the point? Especially considering I was one of the monks involved with the engage, therefore I saw the entire thing and have nothing to hide.

[Autotune]

you were the 3rd person logged into trak lair but there were 28 others when you logged in and /who'd?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you were the 3rd person logged into trak lair but there were 28 others when you logged in and /who'd?

=). Tasselhoff's story changes by the minute.

[Scowlie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GMs should be able to tell. If they seen reason to give TMO trak loot despite you having FTE, then there is a very obvious reason in the logs.

unless you're just guessing you had FTE and haven't petitioned.

The GMs weren't there and didn't have enough information, that's the only reason your guild got the Trak loot. We weren't sniping your Trak, we had a legitimate FTE and your guild ran in. By the time you killed Trak, we had around 30 people logged in and could have killed him.

What I wanna know is why the GMs don't seem to care that your entire raid logged in 12 minutes before Trak spawned. Spin that story however you want, but between this and TMO having spies in raid guilds, you have some shady bullshit going on in your guild. I guess that's cool if that's how you want to play.

Oblig:

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the 3rd person logged into trak lair when he spawned, we could use 6 ppl to hold an engage for like 3 minutes if we wanted to, but we don't.

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That makes no sense, when I logged in we had 28 in /who...

[Autotune]

also, 28 people can zerg him down.

it's twice the number that he's been done with over a year ago.