Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone - Page 7

falkun · #1 01-09-2013, 01:07 PM

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Actually, on any sane comparison to the timeline of live, you're dead wrong Falk and u know it. Between 1999-2001 we were well into velious already (2 years, same amount of time Kunark has been released for with pretty much nothing else). So I can't take anything you say seriously... You've had plenty of time to play in Kunark (and will continue to for the rest of the server's history)

I know when the expansions were released. You know that TMO overgears Kunark and will likely overgear Velious due to being near-100% BiS. You also have a larger raid force than was classic and many more accounts per player than was classic. All of these facts are true (both mine and yours), but I still have things to do in Kunark. That is because I'm not trying to DOMINATE Kunark and other guilds, but I'm trying to have fun in Everquest. I argue that makes me, and those like me that still wish to experience Kunark content, less desperate than those like you who still artificially deny Kunark content while whining about Kunark content being old and demanding new content in Velious. You are burning both ends of the candle and then whining that you've used up the entire candle. Sorry, you don't get a new one, Fountree.

Fountree, do you realize that within a single post you have simultaneously complained that "VP is old" while also argued that training should remain within VP?

Zeelot · #2 01-09-2013, 01:16 PM

Ever thought that we like raiding because we are a raiding guild? It is the reason why we kill things. We are not trying to block anyone. Our playstyle just doesnt match with some people's 'lets all be family guilds that get along' mentality.

Alarti0001 · #3 01-09-2013, 02:36 PM

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Ever thought that we like raiding because we are a raiding guild? It is the reason why we kill things. We are not trying to block anyone. Our playstyle just doesnt match with some people's 'lets all be family guilds that get along' mentality.

falkun · #4 01-09-2013, 01:21 PM

Then continue to raid for the enjoyment. You haven't "farmed it dry" if you are enjoying it though. Fountree sounds desperate for Velious. I suggest he either takes a break or finds a new motivation to raid, like yours: for the enjoyment.

Zeelot · #5 01-09-2013, 01:33 PM

Reason I am still enjoying things is because I login casually. If TMO really wanted to deprive the server, you would see me on every day and other guilds would barely be getting anything.

Fountree · #6 01-09-2013, 01:36 PM

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Fountree, do you realize that within a single post you have simultaneously complained that "VP is old" while also argued that training should remain within VP?

Show me where I argued that training should remain within VP please. I just said people (including GMs) probably don't really care and that there are bigger issues at hand here.

falkun · #7 01-09-2013, 01:38 PM

And what does that have to do with the OP? Do you log in to "casually" train in VP? How is your casual logging going to be altered by any change in VP?

For me, as I've already mentioned, a change in VP would allow me a better opportunity to experience a part of Kunark that I haven't yet. Fountree is "desperately" trying to prove that Velious is the solution and not VP, but I'm arguing that the server atmosphere requires a change, not a new location for old arguments. Releasing Velious is like Congress putting off sequestration until March: same problem, new timeline. Why can't we be better than Congress and solve the problem now?

Zeelot · #8 01-09-2013, 01:40 PM

Me logging in casually gives the server a better shot at beating TMO to raid targets. TMOs overall organization and efficiency is much higher when I put the time in. Many officers including myself are just chilling and letting other people take the reigns right now. It is good practice for them and also helps our competition gain a foothold + morale by winning at races for targets.

falkun · #9 01-09-2013, 01:59 PM

You can offer any and all reasons you'd like, I'm not disputing them. But you are admitting you had two weeks of "testing dragons" without raid interference and you had a period of no training within VP. These opportunities were handed to you by CSR, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

Autotune · #10 01-09-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can offer any and all reasons you'd like, I'm not disputing them. But you are admitting you had two weeks of "testing dragons" without raid interference and you had a period of no training within VP. These opportunities were handed to you by CSR, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

Why do I have to admit anything? I think it's well documented, it's not a big secret that it took place or why it took place.

I mean, people were handed guises (other illusions) and pre-nerf staffs at some GM events. Should people expect that to happen all the time? Should people get pissed when they aren't given those as choices? Basically, you're upset at an event that was put in place by Nilbog and Rogean.

again, less conspiracy please.