Power leveling should be banned.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Noudess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Competing for mobs - of level - is fine by me. It's part of a shared world. Competing for level 15 mobs with a level 60 so they can PL a level 10, sucks. It's against the spirit of what "experience" means, and mocks the dungeon/zone in which it is done.

People who don;t originate in this genre, back when we had a live GM, don't realize the intent of experience. It's why skills level up as you use them. It is granted when earned. Live GMs take levels away for acting out of alignment. They certainly wouldn't be granting Xp for being Pled. It is obvious to anyone that examines EQ, that the server rules are trying to get of-level mobs/dungeons taken by of0-level characters. It no different than a live GM picking the correct of-level module for his players. You'd never see the GM pick a level 20 module for a level 50 player to run trough with his level 1 buddy. It's just a mockery and insult to the genre.

Its the video game mentality. EQ is an RPG with graphical enhancements, that is the intention. Pling on any level is an exploit against the intent put forth by the creators of the game.

I have a main, I had one from 1999-2010 on live. I had a ton of alts, and they all played the game and enjoyed all the levels - in all the zones. If people stopped worrying about levelling and enjoyed the game, then they wouldnt be bored levels 1-50, because they'd be chalenging all the content, not the same tired 5 areas that have max xp.

It doesn't matter what the intention of the gaming experience was meant to be. All that matters is what is, and what you can do with it.

[Noudess]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter what the intention of the gaming experience was meant to be. All that matters is what is, and what you can do with it.

A total perfect picture of the new generation. Being polite, being ethical, taking your turn, anything that isn't totally for them and them alone is unheard of.

They do because they can. That's called barbarism. That's why society has rules. So, you can cheat in a variety fo games - do you cheat in all of them because you can.

If someone puts $1000 on a table in real like and walks away trusting you, do you take it? if so, I guess we have nothing to discuss, you're just not a good person.

[Noudess]

I'm gratified that some, dare I say most of the replies agree. Banning PLing may be unfeasable, but the no XP for a mob 2x your level (excluding maybe levels 1-3) would be easy - and frankly - I don't see any downside.

[SwordNboard]

Also, for those crying anti-PL: In classic when you claimed main room in unrest, that's all you got. 4 fucking ghouls. Brewer was separate, halls were usually free for all, side and back doors were all separate "camps". Now! If you claim main room on P99 you have the whole first floor. If someone came into your legit group area and said they're gonna take brewer, you'd blow a fuse! So rethink the way you claim pixels before calling PLers mob hogs

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Noudess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When someone takes a zone like najena or unrest, and makes the entire zone a personal playground for some level 10 character via power leveling.. is that in line with what this server wants.

I wanted to go hunt najena with a friend. I am 16, she is 14. Instead a level 50+ is getting paid 2k an hour and pulling every named and mob he can past us as we watch his level 10 friend level.

As an of-level group, we can't really get anything going, as the mobs we want are down, and when they pop, we might get 1 or 2 while the Pler pulls everything past us. If we try and go deeper for pulls, entire rooms spawn on the puller on his way back.

I'd argue that PLing is WAY worse for the game than 2 boxing (though I hate that also).

I propose a modification that makes it impossible for a character to gain XP from any mob more than double their level - regardless of how the kill is made.

We want a classic EQ experience, or a race to dominate spawns at 60 - screwing the population that wants to fight of-level dungeons?

Why not make a thread like "Say no to dragons"

Why should people be allowed to kill dragons? There are other games where people dont kill dragons, why should people be allowed to kill dragons in EQ then?

Cuz its EQ buddy

its EQ

[Massive Marc]

hate u <3

[Noudess]

I love the replies that are negative. They state no facts or debatable points.

Just swear words and name calling. That pretty much sums up the validity of their opinions. I'm done with this debate, my point was made and those who actually think gave lucid replies, one way or the other. I respect both. But there is no point arguing with someone who cannot or is unwilling to debate using reason, rather they stoop to name calling.

[Noudess]

Its also funny, so many people saying nothing to do because contents been solved and optimized. What about actually role playing your race and class and having fun? Mobs and XP are just side effects and each new character is a journey to building a new life with personality.

Real life is the same way. I don't object to someone stealing because they will have more money than me, I object because it is wrong. I'm not jealous of anyone with no morals, I don't care what they have. I earn what I get, and take pride from it.

[gotrocks]

You can still find groups on p99. i find them every day, multiple times a day. Its not that difficult.

You're not going to get powerleveling "banned". its just not going to happen, and there's no sense arguing about it. I don't think everyone who Pl's is a douchebag. Are there many? yes, but that doesn't mean all. I've met many powerlevelers who step aside and let you take camps in a zone they are pling in.

Noud, you are definitely contradicting yourself in many of your posts. First you say everyone should play the way they want, then you say the only way to play is your way. I'm sure there's other contradictions in there too, but thats the biggest one. It doesnt matter what you say at this point. This isn't going to happen.

One final thing for you to consider - many people who PL are players who have invited their friends to play the game and are many levels higher than the person who is just starting up. They want to play with their friend but they dont want to start a whole new character and do it all over again, so they PL. I am currently doing this for a RL friend who hasnt played in over a decade. We wouldn't be able to play together if I wasn't pl'ing him. But again, I am courteous about it and go to an area where there arent many players.

Tl;dr this pl ban thing isnt going to happen. nor is the 2x your lvl no xp thing.

[Safon]

I've been on this server since year one. I've seen this thread created time and time again. I've seen the same arguments made, over and over.

Power levelling wasn't ever banned. It will never be banned.

Deal with it