Gun People / Gun Haters

[Charlton Heston]

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I disagree. The Founding Fathers put in the 2nd Amendment so the people would have the firepower to overthrow the government if it trended toward tyranny. And considering that they felt a tax on tea a good enough reason to fight a war, I'm pretty sure they would consider our current >50% net taxation well north of tyrannical, not to mention the fact that the TSA gets to grab your balls every time you use an airplane, or our various foreign wars.

Alawen, reacting to what's put in front of you instead of what you can't see doesn't make you racist, it makes you human, and this is why the media substantially run our country.

Lastly, to all you gun control nuts, there is simply 0 evidence that gun control actually reduces crime . . . for the obvious reason that criminals don't follow gun laws. Gun control is one of those ideas that is neat, simple, logical and wrong. Read for example: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp or

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Implementing gun control immediately caused the crime rate in DC.

Yea because when the public is unarmed, burglars just get to feed on the populace. IF we didn't need locks on our doors, we wouldn't need guns.

[Relapse2]

you all should watch this documentary

http://www.putlocker.com/file/93090B574127DE1E

[Charlton Heston]

This would have never happened in Israel

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[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. The Founding Fathers put in the 2nd Amendment so the people would have the firepower to overthrow the government if it trended toward tyranny. And considering that they felt a tax on tea a good enough reason to fight a war, I'm pretty sure they would consider our current >50% net taxation well north of tyrannical, not to mention the fact that the TSA gets to grab your balls every time you use an airplane, or our various foreign wars.

Alawen, reacting to what's put in front of you instead of what you can't see doesn't make you racist, it makes you human, and this is why the media substantially run our country.

Lastly, to all you gun control nuts, there is simply 0 evidence that gun control actually reduces crime . . . for the obvious reason that criminals don't follow gun laws. Gun control is one of those ideas that is neat, simple, logical and wrong. Read for example: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp or

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Implementing gun control immediately caused the crime rate in DC.

Immediately?? It took 10 years for the rate to jump to record levels. Seems to me more like around the time the war on drugs started taking place is when the death rate jumped. Also no where on that graph does it say homicides and manslaughters from guns.

[Lubian]

From what I've heard, the shooter didn't even own the guns he used; they were owned by the mother. Therefore, I don't think tougher gun control would have been the answer to what occurred here.

I haven't been keeping up to date, but do you think the Mother would have had the guns in a location accessible to the son, if she knew he was going to kill her and children? Of course not.

Assuming all of that is really true, I'm not sure if this situation could have been prevented, unless someone knew it was going to take place (which is why they probably arrested his brother).

[Charlton Heston]

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[Tarathiel]

i am by no means a leftist gun control psycho, neither am i your typical right wing gun whacko. i generally tend to fall in the middle of these sorts of conversations as i can see the validity of both arguments. however, in this case, im starting to lean a little bit to the left, im not saying that respectable, mentally stable, law-abiding citizens should not be able to own guns(be it handgun, assualt rifle or otherwise doest really matter to me, a gun is a gun) BUT i do think some changes need to happen with our current system that would allow for gun dealers to better recognize potential threats. people with a history of mental illness or a criminal background should not have access to guns. ever. period. end of story. in the case of this adam lanza dude who supposedly was using fully legal and registered firearms(they were registered to his mother) i dont know how gun control laws would have prevented it. but maybe if his mental illness had been better documented something could have been done to prevent him from having access to the guns in the first place. this is more of a failure on the part of his mother and the doctor's that saw after his care, then the gun laws in place. but that doesnt mean we cant learn from this situation and try to fix the broken system that allows for these types of situations to happen

[Ahldagor]

Yesterday wasn't unprecedented, and guns are harmless as is. People tend to do things with them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

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[Ephirith]

Can any white trash please explain to me what's so fantastic about owning guns? Why is our culture so obsessed and saturated with them?

Does it make you feel strong? Safe? I own a gun but it wouldn't stop someone from walking up and capping me in the head, even if I carried it with me.

Feel like I'm missing something.