Raiding Question- TMO

[Safon]

Originally Posted by Twilight-Sparkle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, when you guys drop the guts below 100k, I'll be ready and waiting.

Didn't you pretty much just start here? How on earth can you afford anything close to even a 30 - 90k trak guts mq

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nneave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why won't TMO give others a chance for their epic if no one in TMO needs it?

I know for sure my guild is capable of mobilizing and killing raid bosses in a reasonable time.

If TMO just has that many pple where someone always need the epic piece then I can understand.

Ele maybe you can answer for me reasonably. That would be my only complaint, if TMO truly cock blocked just for the sake of cock blocking. That would bother me if I was a member. I know I am weird, I truly care about others.

I would gladly make a pact to stay naked the rest of my cleric career, if TMO would let some others get their much needed epic items.

We get new apps needing gear outs, Alts needing gear, and mains who still need gear off many mobs. We are a raiding guild and as such it is our responsibility to provide raids and loots to the players who join such a guild. If we don't gear out alts and apps eventually players stop playing. There needs to be some reward to playing while we wait to velious.

Very basic common sense there. No cockblocking or crazy motives.

[Arrisard]

Pony dude, you've been on this server what, two weeks? Three at most? You have some mighty strong opinions about situations and people I'm willing to bet you haven't had a single second of actual first hand experience with. But, who am I kidding, that's par for the course around here, spend 10 minutes on the P99 boards and you're a fucking guild historian. Metallikus might be a lot of choice words I'd like to pick out, but at least I can't say he wasn't actually there for some of it to develop his own, imo warped, perspective of things.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Safon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't you pretty much just start here? How on earth can you afford anything close to even a 30 - 90k trak guts mq

Prostitution.

[Safon]

Originally Posted by Nneave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why won't TMO give others a chance for their epic if no one in TMO needs it?

I know for sure my guild is capable of mobilizing and killing raid bosses in a reasonable time.

If TMO just has that many pple where someone always need the epic piece then I can understand.

Ele maybe you can answer for me reasonably. That would be my only complaint, if TMO truly cock blocked just for the sake of cock blocking. That would bother me if I was a member. I know I am weird, I truly care about others.

I would gladly make a pact to stay naked the rest of my cleric career, if TMO would let some others get their much needed epic items.

Epics are already far less of an "epic" achievement than I recall during live. I don't think everyone and their grandmother should expect to get their expect, unless the class epic is already a joke to achieve (rogue, shaman etc)

Epics should go to the best players (or just those with the most time on their hands I suppose)

[McMuffins]

This is a great idea, and easy to do. It's easy because we (each top guild) pretty much do everything required anyway. Monsters being on any extended timers doesn't mean it's harder, here's the solution:

Guild A regulates the rotation by simply having guilds apply for rights. The guild A rotation operator invests into the Twitter Batphones of each applied guilds. These guilds that apply do their own tracking (done already), and once the monster pops, they Batphone for help, and the rotation coordinator knows that they have the monster.

Rotation is in fact just a way to say "Hey, Guild Name X, we respect your Guild Name and want you to travel up the timeline of monsters with us."

If you just joined TMO, it would be the same thing as rotation, there will always be the same number (ish) of people trying to get items and have fun. The only difference is the guild name.

TL;DR

Rotation is a nice way of combining two or more guilds who don't want to merge, because in reality you could just join the top raiding guild and have the same chances of getting loot.

I agree with rotation because there will never be a point where everyone will join just one guild.

Rotation 2013.

[Nneave]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the viable competition is gone. Most of those who were left joined TMO. TMO will easily handle pops during the holidays this year. Rotation unneccessary.

No one is questioning your ability, its your reasoning I question.
Not to be offensive but most guilds who behave this way it is because their leaders become self righteous and/or they are lead by young pple.

[Safon]

Originally Posted by Twilight-Sparkle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prostitution.

So RMT? Got it, that's what I thought

[Nneave]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We get new apps needing gear outs, Alts needing gear, and mains who still need gear off many mobs. We are a raiding guild and as such it is our responsibility to provide raids and loots to the players who join such a guild. If we don't gear out alts and apps eventually players stop playing. There needs to be some reward to playing while we wait to velious.

Very basic common sense there. No cockblocking or crazy motives.

Ok, that is reasonable.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Safon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So RMT? Got it, that's what I thought

What's RMT? And if you want a serious answer, I got handouts from a friend who convinced me to move here from Grand Creation. That's basically how I was able to get full Lambent.