2012 Presidential Debates

[hatelore]

And as i said that's just how i see it all, I'm not anyone special, infact i didn't even go to college. But i try to be honest in how i see. I used to think i was always right and everyone had to see it my way, and then i had kids of my own and grew up. Now I'm just happy that i got my health and I'm shhexxy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] at least to my wife.

[Barkingturtle]

The best thing about America is that you can be as malinformed as you want and your opinion counts just as much as my correct one.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like the Chinese have already gotten to you.

Much like the Chinese, I'm collecting PMs.

[hatelore]

And to toot my own horn, college or not these hands of mine can fix just about anything you put in front of them. Which reminds me I better go back to work before I lose my job!

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best thing about America is that you can be as malinformed as you want and your opinion counts just as much as my correct one.

Okay, that made me chuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always laugh when I hear this. Educate yourself. 90% of the deficit over the last 4 years was things that Bush didn't pay for. Ironically, the Right's massive propaganda machine is the reason why Republicans are consistently nearly as informed as turtles.

That's it. It's Bush's fault. The Obama/Pelosi/Reid axis had near total power, but were helpless?

[Barkingturtle]

Yeah, I gotta go pick up my welfare check and see my pot dealer. Good chatting with you dude. I didn't get to go to college either because I had some legal setbacks right around my senior year of high school. Us unwashed, uneducated masses gotta stick together. Except I disagree with everything you believe in. Oh well, at least we both hate Oklahoma.

[hatelore]

Lol, now your just picking on me haha.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Capitalism brought about the creation of the only true utopia on earth(USA). Capitalism made it to where any man can become whatever he wants, if he has the proper guidance through life and he has the inner will to work for it.

Those of us who are in the real Utopias on Earth (howzit goin' eh?) beg to differ. Capitalism ensures that people who are willing to work hard have a chance at a good life but also ensures (in it's purest form) that people who have cultural or physical disabilities are swept into the trash can of life. Capitalism needs to be moderated by ethics and social justice. I think looking in from the outside the Democrats are futher along than the Republicans. Abandonment of religious dogma and extreme capitalism is a necessary precursor to a successful society. Republicans would move the US towards a theocracy of a virulance not unlike Iran.

On many measures of societal health the US is not ranked very high at all. The 2004 United Nations' Human Development Report, which ranks 177 countries on a "Human Development Index," measures such indicators of societal health as life expectancy, adult literacy, per-capita income, educational attainment, and so on. According to this report, the five top nations were Norway, Sweden, Australia, Canada, and the Netherlands. I think the US barely cracked the top 25. Not incidentally, they are also have some of the highest ratios of atheists to religious in the world.

TL;DR The guy with the magic underwear scares the living shit out of me.

Regards,
Mg

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Capitalism ensures that people who are willing to work hard have a chance at a good life but also ensures (in it's purest form) that people who have cultural or physical disabilities are swept into the trash can of life. Capitalism needs to be moderated by ethics and social justice. I think looking in from the outside the Democrats are futher along than the Republicans. Abandonment of religious dogma and extreme capitalism is a necessary precursor to a successful society. Republicans would move the US towards a theocracy of a virulance not unlike Iran.

Agreed.