Shadowknight, what race is best?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by raff01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3 sec FD? I've played a SK for 3 years and at high level 3 sec for FD is just as good as commiting suicide. its completely utterly useless.

Spoken like someone who has never had BE greaves.

You can use BE greaves even when your spell gem FD is on CD. How is that not awesome?

[raff01]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spoken like someone who has never had BE greaves.

You can use BE greaves even when your spell gem FD is on CD. How is that not awesome?

What's the use of using BE FD when your FD gem is on? I mean its twice the casting time of FD and 3 times Death Peace.
Sure death peace is Velious which still is classic, but why would you want to use a 3 sec FD when you can cast a 1,5 sec FD?
BE greaves have nice stats on it, but hey with Velious they end up the best race.

[falkun]

/facepalm

[Splorf22]

That was my only point: if your FD fails you can use the greaves. It does seem that in Velious according to Lucy Death peace has a 4s recast time so they would be unnecessary. So based on this I would say in Velious Ogre > Iksar > Troll > DE/Human/Erudite. In Kunark Iksars are simply the worst.

P.S. When someone posts /facepalm after your post, it means you are doing something wrong

P.P.S. Danth, what's your char name?

[raff01]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was my only point: if your FD fails you can use the greaves. It does seem that in Velious according to Lucy Death peace has a 4s recast time so they would be unnecessary. So based on this I would say in Velious Ogre > Iksar > Troll > DE/Human/Erudite. In Kunark Iksars are simply the worst.

P.S. When someone posts /facepalm after your post, it means you are doing something wrong

P.P.S. Danth, what's your char name?

Indeed. point taken, when I played my SK in the higher levels, I was already in the Velious era so yeah.
Still, 3 secs is a huge deal when having to stand still and hope not getting interrupted.
I did own BE greaves, and I did try the FD on it. And most of the time, 3 secs was just way too long and would most often get me in trouble.
Also even in Kunark Era, Iksar still > human, eru and DE imo for the fact that they get the regen and that they get to have a unique epic that is waaaay easier to do than the classic SK epic and can actually be finished fairly easily without a guild and with just a few friends.

[Danth]

I concur, Velious and Death Peace should make the greaves much less attractive. That being said they'll still have very good stats by the standards of droppable gear.

Splorf22, my Shadow Knight is named Andoric. Mostly I duo with the wife. My Paladin (my forum namesake) has been basically inactive since 2011.

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Originally Posted by Krissdu64 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS : who cares of faction when you can FD and bank anywhere in the world...?

I do. I consider feign banking a nuisance at best and the associated merchant selling difficulties an unwanted hassle. I like convenience. As I noted, min-maxers balk at such a choice but it works for me and what I want out of P1999.


Danth

[Bamzal Sherbet]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stun immunity best racial trait ever.

specially on pvp server

[Malrubius]

Troll/Iksar regen is like having a permanent Fungi Tunic at level 60. If you already have one, it's like wearing two. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[raff01]

Originally Posted by Krissdu64 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blood ember greaves allow you to cast FD without any countdown. The spell is 1,5sec casting time but has 15 sec of recast time while the greaves are 3sec but NO RECAST TIME

3 sec for FD is pretty good, you just have no idea what you're talking about ...

PS : who cares of faction when you can insta invis (with CoS) and FD then bank anywhere in the world...?

Oli

3 sec FD pretty good? and I'm the one who has no idea what im talking about?
Usually 2 situations where FD is used for SK's : pulling and avoiding death.
I've played long enough at high level to know 1,5 sec already makes it quite hard. Hell even with deathpeace I wished I was a monk in Sebilis when mobs chain cast on you, or when you have to split those mobs for pulling.
So 3 secs? give me a fucking break. 3 sec may only give you an additional chance if FD fails. With Deathpeace its rendered useless.

And not everyone can insta invis with CoS cause it cause its been nerfed and pre nerf is ungodly expensive and not everyone wants to farm over 50k for one piece of item...

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by raff01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still, 3 secs is a huge deal when having to stand still and hope not getting interrupted.

That's why ogre is teh best!

Originally Posted by raff01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of the time, 3 secs was just way too long and would most often get me in trouble.

Get you in trouble? You're still missing the point. The greaves aren't for using as a mana-saving tool or something. You use them when you are already IN trouble because your spell FD failed, or if maybe you've LoSed stuff that is some distance behind you and you have a bit of time to spare, etc. How in the world could an item that gives you an ability you did not have before, even if it isn't an instant-cast, guaranteed success FD that fully blurs the whole zone while also DTing any raid mobs within 300 feet, not be awesome?