sup with red99?

[PhantomRogue]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this would be a win win situation for everyone, I like.

No... It would still massively unbalance the server.

It would be just like allowing transfers from Blue to Red.

Wipe and Restart.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Labanen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you used to be right, lately i think the few people that are left begin to understand that it doesnt help population to grief the shit out of new players. And i am enjoying the server alot more than i did 2 months ago. Only problem is that work is keeping me increasingly busy so i get to play less than i did [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stupidity of mage summoned swords and no guard assist played a part in all this, yes, but it wasn't all that big a deal imho. Community was a bigger problem to me; we had 95% people who want to kill&corpse camp every random joe at sight, 5% people who send a tell "y u kill me????!!!1" after dying; a complete opposite of how live pvp servers were. It's just an equation that can't work out long term.

True stuff. Good posts.

On live, there was a system of order vs chaos. It afforded new players, as well as everyone else, to actually enjoy EQ (player progression/pve), without the "anti-pve" and "bluebie" bashing from all of the inflated egos.

EQ pvp was awesome 99-01. There was no need to manufacture reasons to pvp. It was either you chose order, and respected other players, or you chose chaos, and played the antagonist by PKing other players. Beyond that, even among the "anti-pk" guilds, quarrels over camps and mobs always took place naturally, as they do on any blue server. Those things led to diplomacy or pvp, and allowed factions to arise organically. R99 lacked that depth, unfortunately.

This server was overrun by arrogant elitist PKs who go way beyond "playing" the antagonist, to immersing themselves in that role in and out of the game (forums) to the point of douchebaggery. That was a huge turn off to many players not only from blue, but also who played on EQ live pvp servers during the classic-velious era. Though the guilty parties will offer innumerable excuses as to "whats really wrong with the server" (and still do so to this day), those reasons pale in comparison to a lack of decency among players.

I've recently proposed to Nihilum, in an effort to restore that environment and help players (especially new ones), that we declare ourselves strictly anti-pk (read bluebie by retards). In other words, in the future, we aim to help fellow players by fighting only those who've aligned themselves against us, or who choose to random PK.

Would probably make the server more interesting for everyone.

[Dullah]

somehow this got posted in wrong thread [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Or maybe not, didn't realize this was RnF, or was it moved... ??? oh well.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still think the best solution would be to open Red99 2.0, start over, legacy time period, and promise server merge after 4-5 months. That way Nihilum can continue farming and stockpiling a gear advantage while others can try to catch up from a non-broken server launch. Yet to hear a better idea to save the server. (/whisper YES IT NEEDS SAVING, biatch sprung an uber leak on day one) Kunark will not save server, it will help for a month or so I think! Will be a fun month, and I am looking forward to it!

Those things were terrible, and surely accounted for many leaving early, but of the 400-500 that existed right after launch, over 300 were still around after 2 out of 3 of those problems were fixed. Not exactly that cut and dry.

I know I wouldn't play after a wipe, but if I thought another server to be merged with the present red would work, I'd have been for it... several months ago. Theres nothing left to "farm" in the meantime. Unless theres something to compete over, you won't see any pop, or any pvp on this server. People are ready for a legit EQ pvp box with kunark, which is why the day devnoob announced Kunark their population tripled (though no one will admit it). Like I suggested when plane of fear came out, content (planes) needed to be expedited or the non-raiders would lose interest on a low pop server... and they did. Flash-forward the removal of legacy items (the last non-planar contested content - pve/pixels), half the server pop left in a matter of days.

Beyond that, the problems that took more population than bugs (in my post above) would likely still exist if the same crowd decided to leave LoZ and play on the r99 do-over server. I just don't see its plausibility, even IF (big if) we had staff present and devoted to helping R99, which we don't...

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by jibekn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be perfect for him, since he has no original work

Originally Posted by Kimm Barely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Tr0llb0rn]

But on a serious note:

Stop with all the calls for server wipe, etc. NEVER gonna happen.

What will happen is this:

Kunark will come out in the near future. And server will stabalize im predicting at average 150 a night. I dont think people realize how many want to play but are just on break because they just have zero interest in classic after 9 months, and I dont blame them.

ez69's pop has been getting lower and lower as the days go by. Newness is wearing off fast from that shitbox. I expect at least half the active players there to come back here for Kunark too. If you count boxing, ive seen plenty of days recently where red99 has MORE on than ez69.

Kunark gonna be fun.

[Tr0llb0rn]

you sound kinda hopeless, knowning you will never get those mith arms/legs you got booted out of Nihilum for craving, much less anything more uber.

You dream of wipe, but your dreams are a dead end, crushed.

In short:

Originally Posted by Kimm Barely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Just Let Go.

[Zallar]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That way Nihilum can continue farming and stockpiling a gear advantage while others can try to catch up from a non-broken server launch.

This doesn't make sense to me. Why do you need a private server to "catch up"? All the camps are open now, just log in and level up. Brotherhood has been pushing to recruit as many of the new people as possible as well as the folks coming back by the current interest.

We've been very open about our plans to become a guild to challenge Nihilum on PvE and it's not like they're pulling out the stops to grief us off the server like Holo used to.

Kubark is coming, people with sleeper 50's are gonna start playing again when it does. If you need to catch up, you better get your ass online now and do it.

Did I mention that Brotherhood is recruiting? You want to fight Nihilum, you want to raid shit? Then join Brotherhood.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by jibekn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ 4 nihilum bluebies bashing their heads into the wall that i deguilded myself and they lost their trump card

Naggy/Vox down last night btw

Originally Posted by Kimm Barely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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OUCH, u getting as bad as Heartbrand with that l00t cravings

Just Let Go.