If a new p99 server opened with forced raid target rotations would you switch?

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is going to start a fire in this thread but its my honest answer. I would start over as would like 90% of my guild if a new blue 99 was opened if and only if TMO was not allowed on that server.

Just so you know, there ARE lots of places in the world where TMO isn't....

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[Cars]

Originally Posted by inyane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Versus what? Everyone but TMO leaving, kinda like it's been recently?

I think this server has a tendancy to take all of their problems, attach them to something they dont like, then say it's that things fault for everything that is wrong with the server. In this case it's TMO, before that it was IB and you would be stupid if you actually believed that.

What Sony did to fix the issue of people quitting do to boredom and competing for the same old content was to create new content, the difference is a staff of about 200 peeps vs. Nilbog and a rotating flock of mid-low level programmers (no offense). If content was released on P99 at the same pace it was on live, you guys would never even know TMO existed because you would be an expansion behind them. the problem here is content saturation where the casuals get to end game content with the hardcores and then get pissed when they cant beat them at it.

The truth is that EQ is an older MMO designed in a way that was awesome, but short sighted. The only way for them to keep the masses at bay and not in a constant state of bitterly fighting over content was to just keep making content. Unfortunately P99 can't move that fast (again reasonable) and we get a massive bottleneck right at the end of an expansions timeline which causes all this hatred towards a system that shy of variance, would pretty much work for everyone.

It will be interesting to see the FINAL bottleneck at the end of Velious when this server dies.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this server has a tendancy to take all of their problems, attach them to something they dont like, then say it's that things fault for everything that is wrong with the server. In this case it's TMO, before that it was IB and you would be stupid if you actually believed that.

The truth is that EQ is an older MMO designed in a way that was awesome, but short sighted. The only way for them to keep the masses at bay and not in a constant state of bitterly fighting over content was to just keep making content. Unfortunately P99 can't move that fast (again reasonable) and we get a massive bottleneck right at the end of an expansions timeline which causes all this hatred towards a system that shy of variance, would pretty much work for everyone.

Also, as someone already stated in this thread, if p99 was pushing out content at the same rate as Verant (and later Sony), no one on this server would know who TMO was as they would already be half an expansion ahead of everyone else.

[Gwence]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

[Gwence]

tmo being the "top guild" on this server right now is the same as being a self-proclaimed leader of some 3rd world country in africa that no one has heard of.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

So you are reinforcing the fact that you could be number one if TMO wasnt here. Thanks

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

TMO did in 5 months what IB could never do. If content came out at a normal pace, IB would have been run off all the same.

Face it, your guild was destined to lose to TMO.

[Kevlar]

Wipe it clean!

[Swish]

Unfortunately after a few months you'd probably end up with TMO v2.0 (or with similarities)... new starters would be king of the hill! Woohooo! GREAT!

OK, now you've split the server population either in half or at least screwed up what is already a quiet server. At this point the "race to 60" people have hit 60, and either started raiding (if it's doable with the new server population) or gone back to the old server where they had many more pixels, more cash and didn't have to try as hard.

Meanwhile a raiding guild on Server 2 would probably dominate another, there might be a merger but you'd certainly end up with that Guild 1 screws Guild 2 over again and in 2-3 years... here we are again with another bunch of people asking for a 3rd server because they weren't kings of Server 2.

By then Rogean would probably have to merge Server 2 into Server 1 to keep one looking healthy if Server 3 (realistically the new Server 2) gets launched.

Overall:-

1. P99 Red wasn't a success - I'm sure this will have dented the confidence of the devs.

2. There's not enough of a population to support 2 healthy servers at the moment - and in a year after launch numbers on both could resemble P99 red if people can't get groups due to their level (we struggle here as it is sometimes, don't we?).

3. There's other EQ emu servers on the list (EZserver, The Hidden Forest, etc) so alternatives are already available even if there are differences in content). Perhaps you could try those if you're bored or need a change of scene.

4. Many other niggling issues - 2-boxing, RMTs, GM support (can you clone an Amelinda?), etc.

...feel free to disagree, but I think you'll send P99 to an early grave if a new server opens.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately after a few months you'd probably end up with TMO v2.0 (or with similarities)... new starters would be king of the hill! Woohooo! GREAT!

OK, now you've split the server population either in half or at least screwed up what is already a quiet server. At this point the "race to 60" people have hit 60, and either started raiding (if it's doable with the new server population) or gone back to the old server where they had many more pixels, more cash and didn't have to try as hard.

Meanwhile a raiding guild on Server 2 would probably dominate another, there might be a merger but you'd certainly end up with that Guild 1 screws Guild 2 over again and in 2-3 years... here we are again with another bunch of people asking for a 3rd server because they weren't kings of Server 2.

By then Rogean would probably have to merge Server 2 into Server 1 to keep one looking healthy if Server 3 (realistically the new Server 2) gets launched.

Overall:-

1. P99 Red wasn't a success - I'm sure this will have dented the confidence of the devs.

2. There's not enough of a population to support 2 healthy servers at the moment - and in a year after launch numbers on both could resemble P99 red if people can't get groups due to their level (we struggle here as it is sometimes, don't we?).

3. There's other EQ emu servers on the list (EZserver, The Hidden Forest, etc) so alternatives are already available even if there are differences in content). Perhaps you could try those if you're bored or need a change of scene.

4. Many other niggling issues - 2-boxing, RMTs, GM support (can you clone an Amelinda?), etc.

...feel free to disagree, but I think you'll send P99 to an early grave if a new server opens.

I think you are missing the point of this thread. The poll does not ask if you would start on a new server it asks if you would start on a new server with forced raid target rotations.

I dont care if TMO, or TMO2.0 would join that server. Every capable guild would have an even shot at taking down mobs. No cockblocking content. No raid target disputes for guides/GMs to have to deal with. Community decides on a rotation schedule. GMs give it their blessing and the server runs with it.

I would rather play on a server with half our population and be able to kill kunark dragons, VP, VS once a month or even once every other month then continue playing on P99 and being excluded from that content because I am not willing to put in the time required to "compete".

250 people is more than enough for me to have fun on a server locked at Kunark or Velious. Who knows, we may even gain people if they can be casual and have a shot at these targets.

Asher