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Old 06-21-2012, 04:14 PM
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what makes u think anyone will come back for kunark? 51-60 is not easy by no means with classic exp... gonna put urself thru hell leveling all that time for what? to be 60 on a 5 person box.. Nihilum can claim victory of this box... you won nothing but worthless pixels.. gg
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:19 PM
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but what I will congratulate you guys for is one thing. Personally ruining this server that had such great potential. How you ask? by recruiting so many mindless, worthless players that eventually ate up the whole population...take a second, let it sink in
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:04 PM
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but what I will congratulate you guys for is one thing. Personally ruining this server that had such great potential. How you ask? by recruiting so many mindless, worthless players that eventually ate up the whole population...take a second, let it sink in
Its the nature of the xp loss in pvp beast. You cannot blame nihilum for playing the numbers game when it was holocaust who started the ball rolling first and in fact were gloating that they would crush people with numbers. Holocaust got beat at their own game.

What i blame nihilum for though (or most of them that ive seen post), is being unable to look past their benefit for a vision of long term health for the server population.

Yes, you will crush opposition with numbers, being the dominant guild in PVE because nobody wants to contest content for hours straight and delevel to hell and back.

But would you rather do a 15 man raid daily with nobody else on the server, or would you prefer a healthy server where there is daily pvp to be had for hours?

Im not blaming solely Nihilum either because FF and Holo were happy to have the xp loss as a griefing mechanic.

Its time to wake up and realize that unless this is removed, Kunark will come, pop will rise, Twinks will grief, and it will be back to where we are now lightning fast.

I would consider playing again on the server, but im not wasting my time on a server where i know the xp loss in pvp favors zergs, griefers and ancients on the server and prevents new blood from settling on the server.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:07 PM
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IM 1 STEP CLOSER 2 TO THE EDGE N IM ABOUT 2 BREAK
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:54 PM
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ancients on the server and prevents new blood from settling on the server.

I was wondering when this would come up. I knew it would, every excuse under the sun needs to be used before blame gets turned back on those really responsible, the griefers and anti-social nerds who drove away half of that 600 initial release with their random pking, bind camping, griefing,etc.


But anyways, we are not even out of classic yet and already its about "the ancients have too much an advantage!" .. yeah ok.

Either play or dont play. None of you will ever have another legit classic red server again in our life times. Play, or MOVE ON.

No one, least of all Nilbog/rogean, is going to send you flowers in the mail and beg you to play.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:15 PM
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I was wondering when this would come up. I knew it would, every excuse under the sun needs to be used before blame gets turned back on those really responsible, the griefers and anti-social nerds who drove away half of that 600 initial release with their random pking, bind camping, griefing,etc.


But anyways, we are not even out of classic yet and already its about "the ancients have too much an advantage!" .. yeah ok.

Either play or dont play. None of you will ever have another legit classic red server again in our life times. Play, or MOVE ON.

No one, least of all Nilbog/rogean, is going to send you flowers in the mail and beg you to play.
Did you understand where i was getting at with the ancients though? Im an ancient. It means if i roll an alt i can twink it to hell.

The problem with ancients is that they will never, ever lose gear. They will win 90% of 1 vs 1 fights vs new blood. New blood will lose xp, over and over. This will make the server bleed population.

Solution is to put in sets of no drop gear, the kind that was patched in 2001 with the halloween event. So people either roll around naked, with gear they can afford to lose, or take the time to build up a no drop set that gives them at least a chance vs twinks.

Noobs who defeat a twink, maybe by grouping up 3v1 (which gives them something to look forward to) will have a chance to loot a nice piece of gear. They will now decide if they want to wear this piece or trade it for plats to buy say, sow pots to quad.

This will reinvigorate the economy, making people buy and sell again, make pvp interesting again.

And for the finale, of course, remove xp loss and bring the Rallos way of dying which was low health no mana.

This is how i think you could revitalize the server.

Launch Kunark with this and id bet 1000$ that wed see numbers again.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:58 AM
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Did you understand where i was getting at with the ancients though? Im an ancient. It means if i roll an alt i can twink it to hell.

The problem with ancients is that they will never, ever lose gear. They will win 90% of 1 vs 1 fights vs new blood. New blood will lose xp, over and over. This will make the server bleed population.

Solution is to put in sets of no drop gear, the kind that was patched in 2001 with the halloween event. So people either roll around naked, with gear they can afford to lose, or take the time to build up a no drop set that gives them at least a chance vs twinks.

Noobs who defeat a twink, maybe by grouping up 3v1 (which gives them something to look forward to) will have a chance to loot a nice piece of gear. They will now decide if they want to wear this piece or trade it for plats to buy say, sow pots to quad.

This will reinvigorate the economy, making people buy and sell again, make pvp interesting again.

And for the finale, of course, remove xp loss and bring the Rallos way of dying which was low health no mana.

This is how i think you could revitalize the server.

Launch Kunark with this and id bet 1000$ that wed see numbers again.
The "ancients" you are talking about have been griefed off the server. Nihilum dosent run around on dragon twinked alts griefing noobs, thats what holobad and FFers did to help themselves feel better after failing yet another contested raid target (i.e. all of them, for 8 months).

The "ancients" here , help noobs.

You can thank the white knights of Nihilum for this.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:20 PM
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Seems to me thats more or less the objective in any video game...

Theres plenty of stuff to do and compete over on kunark. It will give players of every level a reason to play.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:34 PM
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Kunark gives me personally no reason to play... been done played that content before... no desire to spend idk how many irl days of my life getting from 50-60... only real bonus would be pvping people but guess what... there is no one to pvp... even heartbrand has given up.. seriously... if your playing when tror and heartbrand have given up... need to check yourself...

the problems with this box have been discussed and brought to light from your so called holobad for idk how many months but the bluebie crowd continued to dismiss them and pretend they knew what it took it make a successful pvp box.... No one wanted to admit and deal with the blatant flaws of the server that drove people away...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bIhZO7o3k
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:53 PM
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Tror alive and well. Sky gave us a reason to come back, just like kunark will give everyone else a reason.
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