Blue99 economy soon to be tanked

[chosen one]

No red player will last long on blue it just would never hhave the same amount of excitement. The climate is way to political, and red players will take blue players millions with the farmed loots and many RMTers will be comping at the bit and many bans will happen. The end of red is the end of blue imo as an unbiased observer with 50s in 2 of the 3 top guilds in red99!

[Hagglebaron]

Blue was around and healthy long before red existed

[fischsemmel]

I guess I just never really thought that any players would stop having fun in the game because they can't afford to buy gear with plat.

What droppables could you ever need on your ranger so badly that you will stop having fun playing unless you have them?

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I just never really thought that any players would stop having fun in the game because they can't afford to buy gear with plat.

What droppables could you ever need on your ranger so badly that you will stop having fun playing unless you have them?

You have unfortunately missed the entire point of the fun of trading. Its not about obtaining gear to wear.

If you cannot obtain items to sell (because there's no market left to sell them in) and you cannot buy items in market (because everything desirable is out of the reach of your budget) then there is no market. The only market that will exist will be closed and accessible to those who have a shiteload of plat ie a twink market which is what I think we have.

[fischsemmel]

Isn't the whole "I have a sub-20 ranger with gear that I could not have obtained but for use of the market" kind of proof that there ARE obtainable items to sell and there ARE desirable and affordable items to buy?

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a level 19 ranger, first character, no charity, I have silver swiftblade, mithril breast plate, jagged bands, seb scale armors in other slots.

You camped something that any level 20 can kill and sold the item for thousands of pp, which you then used to buy items (silver swiftblade = chardok. seb scale armors = sebilis. etc.) that you could not have obtained directly until level 50+. And yet here you are complaining about how the only market on this server is only accessible if you are a millionaire.

What. The. Fudge.

[Hagglebaron]

He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Hagglebaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday

Well it works for politicians, why not gamers too. Ignoring the obvious for personal gain / self interest that is.

[Splorf22]

Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".

I dont think u read my posts properly. Im not complaining Im commenting. I never said I should be able to get high end gear for my level 20, I said It looks like if I was level 60 and wanted to buy top droppable gear it would cost multi million. Theres a massive dif there.

[Splorf22]

And you are still wrong. IF I wanted to assemble the maximum droppable gear ranger (note that this includes God/Dragon loot which would never be available for sale on Live):

Tolan's BP 150k
Tolan's Legs 150k
Cloak of Flames 150k
NoS 40k
RBG 50k
Fingerbone Hoop: 20k
Enshrouded Veil: 10k
Other slots: 50k tops

= 620k

If you pass on the BP/Legs which aren't game changing items compared Thorny Vine and then get a Dark cloak of the Sky+RBB instead of the CoF/RBG, you can save yourself 400k. and get 99% of BiS effectiveness for 250k tops.

On the other hand, if you group in Sebilis/HS from 50+ your groups will be making 3kpp or more per hour. It takes maybe 30 hours of XP per level, so 300 hours x 500pp = 150k. So basically you would do it like every other ranger, buy the RBG/NoS and such and get the CoF + Tolans from raiding.

Of course the only guild that does Trakanon/VS right now is TMO, and the competition on the high end raid scene is ugly and fierce, but its far from impossible.