State of the Economy: Ingame

[Arclanz]

You know, I recall seeing Uth's name around as I've been here for years; but I didn't realize what a great, stand up guy he was until seeing some of his posts here. Shame you douchebags chased him off. This IS classic; cool players leaving due to increasing population of asshats/scum/etc. Same thing happened on Live.

[finalgrunt]

Supply and demand.

There are items which are still needed. Haste & regen items are most asked, since there are so many twinks around. Therefore the price usually compares to how much plat you can farm compared to how much time you'll have to spend at the camp to get the item. Ancient cyclops ring, FBSS all fall into that category.

Pretty much 2k per hour is the base value for comparisons.

If billions of plat were dupped and went into the economy, prices would be much much higher than this. Any CoF would sell for 10 millions+. As long as money sits in a bank, there is no inflation. It only happens when the money is used to buy objects.

I guess dupers were caught before they could floor the market. Maybe few millions of duped plat were introduced, but that's it.

There are few money sinks (reagents, coffins, keys in Sky, tink bags), just not enough to balance out the income.

A new player will just have to find ways to make some money. If there is inflation, it works for most items. Like HQ bear skins (they're now what, 20, 30pp? They used to be 10).

The only truth in this game is, for money, you need to spend time playing (or play trader in EC tunnel). And a farming / soloing class can make it easier. Otherwise, find yourself a bunch of great people and farm a camp over and over with them and split the haul.

[Estrang]

Originally Posted by Arclanz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, I recall seeing Uth's name around as I've been here for years; but I didn't realize what a great, stand up guy he was

yea, like those times he gm summoned items for quickfinger. swell guy

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Estrang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea, like those times he gm summoned items for quickfinger. swell guy

That wasn't really the most objectionable thing he did - he did that at least to smoke out people using 3rd party garbage.

He melted down toward the end, although for the most part he was just a really effective enforcer.

[Aceofcups]

Just because someone has millions of plat doesn't mean they are going to use it.

Lets say you have 100k, and lets say thats the price of a CoF, since its been mentioned a ton in this thread. Certainly a great item, perhaps worth all your money.

If you go and dup 1000k. Still a great item, worth all your money? Not so much. But to speed up a buy/sell i think you can go 20k higher without a care.

What im trying to say, is if you double the amount of money an economy has, your not doubling the prices. The people with a ton extra, arn't going to spend a ton more, at least not on one item, they will just bum it a decent 15-20% just to get the deal through easily.

If ya selling something for 10k and one dude is offering 10k and another 12k, who do you think is getting that item?

Also i agree with Arclanz. I have never really heard of Uth, but what i've seen here he seems a pretty good guy. I don't mean to take a hit at him, but just because you can't totally stop corruption/ect, doesn't mean you should stop making any attempts at slowing/reducing it.

Lastly, these threads are kinda useless sadly, there isn't going to be a wipe of PP, its too hard to find out who earned and who cheated their way to getting money.

[Lagaidh]

I swear this is a mature MMO community now. My old rule of thumb in live EQ was not to read sony forums. The negativity made me begin believing there was so much wrong with the game and my server that there was no point in continuing.

We're there team! At least this go round, I take forums with a grain of salt.

In game seems fine.

[lawll]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're there team! At least this go round, I take forums with a grain of salt.

In game seems fine.

Confirmed fanboy

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by lawll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Confirmed fanboy

Given one has to search for a place like this to game, aren't we all?

=)

Guilty as charged. I love me some original-trilogy-EQ.

[Fianna]

Oh wow. What a sad post by Uthgaard.

Makes me a bit discouraged as as a new player, that the server is flooded with duped isk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you'd read my earlier post before jumping to conclusions and hurling insults at possibly the only person on the server who has ever given you any respect at all, which is still more respect than is due, you would have observed that no, it wasn't all removed. Once it is spent, it's impossible to undo. As I said, this went on for months, and it was as simple as cancelling a trades on a laggy connection. The simpler a dupe, the more rampant and harder to keep up with.

Are you insulted by my observation that your feelings were hurt by your unplanned exorcism from P99? Because that wasn't an insult. Maybe I missed where I called you a person unworthy of respect or something.

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was irrelevant, you wouldn't have come crying to me over the 6 bags of gear you dropped on the ground that I kindly restored for you. After all, you only would have cried those tears if you were going to be a consumer forever.

Well thanks for invalidating everything I'll read from you from now on. I've been wondering if the things you say are accurate, but the manner in which you've chosen to portray our lone customer service interaction is enough to tell me you're just pretty butthurt about how your tenure ended around here, and you're merely attempting to be subversive by posting the way you do.

Frankly I was appreciative of your assistance with my drop-transfer gone wrong, but to claim I came "crying to you" is incendiary and just a pathetic attempt to bolster your credibility.

I made a thread in the petition forum to see if it was possible to be indemnified after my internet crashed at the precise moment I dropped my bags. I even stated in the thread that I wasn't sure anything would come of it.

Those loots were the entirety of my accumulated wealth at that point. Yes, I would have been bummed. However, the economy as it is would have aided me in returning to a position of wealth.

I mean, the way I obtained my start-up capital for Tunnelquesting in the first place was selling a Sarnak Liberator for 13 or 16k. Surely a sign of rampant inflation.