p99/red99 slated to get shut down when SOPA passes

[Rogean]

Top recipients for ALL supporting interest groups
Name Amount Received Vote On Passage

• Rep. Eric Cantor [R, VA-7] $462,292
• Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28] $436,000
• Rep. Steny Hoyer [D, MD-5] $387,000
• Rep. James Clyburn [D, SC-6] $323,500
• Rep. John Boehner [R, OH-8] $289,350
• Rep. Addison Wilson [R, SC-2] $251,281
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8] $250,050
• Rep. Michele Bachmann [R, MN-6] $235,367
• Rep. Michael Thompson [D, CA-1] $227,282
• Rep. William Owens [D, NY-23] $225,817

• Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] $1,383,541
• Sen. Patrick Toomey [R, PA] $1,116,789
• Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY] $1,049,215
• Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA] $1,024,012
• Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH] $720,433
• Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY] $656,875
• Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA] $588,074
• Sen. Roy Blunt [R, MO] $543,651
• Sen. Marco Rubio [R, FL] $540,879
• Sen. Richard Burr [R, NC] $523,500

I've remained pretty ignorant to political matters, but are they seriously getting that much money entirely on whether the bill passes or not?

[Littlegyno 6.0]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've remained pretty ignorant to political matters, but are they seriously getting that much money entirely on whether the bill passes or not?

Their campaigns do. Corrupt as Fuck huh.

[Hitchens]

No, they have already received that money regardless of the bill's passage. They're campaign contributions, not personal checks. The money would most likely be spent on staff, office space and supplies, phones, etc.

It's just lobbying, pretty standard stuff. The support for the bill seems to transcend political boundaries as well, you've got both the AFL-CIO and the Teamsters on one side and the Chamber of Commerce on the other. Plus a whole bunch of other organizations and companies as well.

With that said, in my opinion the bill is like trying to catch a shoplifter with a bazooka. Definitely overreach, but not the end of the world and not a sinister conspiracy to control the Internet.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've remained pretty ignorant to political matters, but are they seriously getting that much money entirely on whether the bill passes or not?

Not sure if I'm reading the question right, but this money has already been contributed to them.

I can't tell from the website, but those numbers likely are the aggregate of every dollar each member has received from those particular organizations during their tenure in congress. I can see that the numbers are from the end of the 2010 cycle, so nothing contributed after November 2010 would be counted. My guess is that each member's totals from these companies will be up 20% or more when we see the 2012 numbers, much like financial and healthcare industry contributions were way up during the healthcare and bank reform debates.

One thing to note about that list though is that those are mostly senior members and/or part of their party leadership. Those people inherently take in more money since they get to set the agenda in their chamber or committee. I'm not defending the wholesale selling-out of our elected officials, just saying that these higher-up people are getting tons of money from all sides.

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't tell from the website, but those numbers likely are the aggregate of every dollar each member has received from those particular organizations during their tenure in congress. I can see that the numbers are from the end of the 2010 cycle, so nothing contributed after November 2010 would be counted. My guess is that each member's totals from these companies will be up 20% or more when we see the 2012 numbers, much like financial and healthcare industry contributions were way up during the healthcare and bank reform debates.

Good point and you're probably right. The bill was introduced on 10/26/11, if nothing after November of 2010 is counted then the amounts listed on the site were donated well before the introduction of the H.R.3261.

The page is somewhat deceptive in that it makes it seem like the amounts are a total donated specifically for H.R.3261. They are not.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With that said, in my opinion the bill is like trying to catch a shoplifter with a bazooka. Definitely overreach, but not the end of the world and not a sinister conspiracy to control the Internet.

No, its like trying to catch a suspected armed robber by shutting off access to the store he purchased the gun from.

The accuser needs minimal proof, the store can get shut down without notification from authorities, the owner of a premises is responsible for EVERY interaction between users and his property, and the store can still operate business out the back door if you know how to get there.

[Hitchens]

That analogy doesn't work, because gun stores are legal. Sites which offer pirated material are not.

That's really what SOPA targets. It doesn't target some guy downloading a movie or an album every now and then. It targets large-scale piracy distribution.

[Sextar]

AKA project 1999, emulation is considered one big piracy of sony's 15 bucks o' month

[ZEROSUM]

lo.l @ opencongress thing


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[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Definitely overreach, but not the end of the world and not a sinister conspiracy to control the Internet.

It wold be the end of the Internet as we know it, and give effective control of the Internet to corporations.

Giving the government power to do something and then relying upon their "good sense" not to is pretty friggin' stupid, any way you look at it. If you want proof just look at history.