Which Class to play on P99

[Skope]

Originally Posted by loganhxh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how are mages/necros accepted group-wise on this server? are there too many bad ones that people consider their pets liabilities in dungeons?

group-wise they're awesome. both have fantastic DPS in classic (arguably highest DPS). Pick what you want, but as a fair warning you must realize that your mage will not be played at all come high end velious, unless you get off on mod rod duty. Necros, on the other hand, have the highest DPS in the game by that point (probably earlier). the mage is by far the easiest to level on p99 and still is the prime choice for a first character if you're deciding on leveling an alt/melee and twinking to get it as high as possible before kunark comes out.

it's a matter of what you want. if you plan on leveling fast and putting the char on the backburner while your alt takes the stage, then mage is the best first class for you. if you want a bit more fun/utility then necro is great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] chanters are awesome as well, probably the best "pocket" class to have, surpassing druids. let somebody else port ;P

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

group-wise they're awesome. both have fantastic DPS in classic (arguably highest DPS). Pick what you want, but as a fair warning you must realize that your mage will not be played at all come high end velious, unless you get off on mod rod duty. Necros, on the other hand, have the highest DPS in the game by that point (probably earlier). the mage is by far the easiest to level on p99 and still is the prime choice for a first character if you're deciding on leveling an alt/melee and twinking to get it as high as possible before kunark comes out.

it's a matter of what you want. if you plan on leveling fast and putting the char on the backburner while your alt takes the stage, then mage is the best first class for you. if you want a bit more fun/utility then necro is great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] chanters are awesome as well, probably the best "pocket" class to have, surpassing druids. let somebody else port ;P

Finawin, perhaps you don't get it, so let me reiterate. I never stated mages stink in classic. in fact i know they're the closest thing to an OP class p99 has atm. They're fantastic at making money, by far the easiest to level, and you don't even have to buy them any gear other than a torch and shovel. but when kunark comes out this necro will be camping some of the best loot in the game in the depths of sebilis with maybe an AoE wizzy group and a few shaman, whereas your mage will be chain-casting pets trying to down dino. Finawin, the point is the mage bandwagon will not take you for a lengthy ride so enjoy it while it lasts.

[choklo]

I really enjoyed playing my necro alt on live 9 years ago. I only got to the low 30's before I quit though. I had a level 62 sk ogre too.
I have a lvl 7 chanter now on the back burner since starting my mage. The chanter was slow to level and a little dull and the mage was so much easier/faster to level.
When does the chanter start to get more interesting? Also, what is a "pocket" class? I've always wanted to try a chanter. When can you start to solo with them?

[Tallenn]

Originally Posted by choklo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really enjoyed playing my necro alt on live 9 years ago. I only got to the low 30's before I quit though. I had a level 62 sk ogre too.
I have a lvl 7 chanter now on the back burner since starting my mage. The chanter was slow to level and a little dull and the mage was so much easier/faster to level.
When does the chanter start to get more interesting? Also, what is a "pocket" class? I've always wanted to try a chanter. When can you start to solo with them?

Chanters can solo from 1 on up. I solo'd mine to 16 so far (not because I wanted to- I just couldn't find groups) probably as easily or easier than soloing my druid to 14. Of course, the druid soloing will probably start to far outpace at this level, and especially at 19, but up to now, the chanter has been easier. I haven't even done any charming yet. That's just using wussy summoned pet.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not quite sure what world you live on, Finawin, but i'd love to join you! it seems a magical place with wondrous plains and beautiful mountains!

mage pets just aren't the same in kunark as they are in classic. The DPS, iirc, was decent (pet DPS), the nukes on the other hand are weaker and don't match up with wizzies as well as they do in classic. The pets can't quite take the hits that kunark mobs dish out, even the earth pet. because the mobs hit harder and have more hp than your pets can handle, you're ultimately you're left with no other option but to chaincast your pet if you plan to solo, which despite what finawin thinks, is nowhere near as efficient as a necro. they still make excellent group DPS and will always be the best class to farm lower lvl dungeons with, thus a great moneymaker as well.

This was all true and VERY intentional. Mages were OVERPOWERED DURING CLASSIC....it's a simple fact. Their nukes were nearly as strong as wizzy nukes, short of Ice Comet - and their pets allowed for steady DPS between nukes.

THIS is exactly one of the reasons why Kunark mobs have much higher spells resists....and thusly Wizards get Lures, while NO other classes do. Additionally as has been stated, Kunark mobs not only hit alot harder but they have a LOT more HP. Burning them down like classic mobs is far from mana efficient.

EDIT -- Of course the MAGE EPIC should get honorable mention here. Once epicced any Mage was set until Luclin as being one of the highest-DPS toons in the game, period. I remember playing my Dwarf Warrior on Tallon Zek and dueling a Guildee Mage of mine - this was during velious, and my warrior was in full Kael Armor / NTOV gear. Wielding a Claw of Lightning (14/18 - 41% haste) and a Primal 1HB. Even with the Avatar buff constantly on my Warrior, the Mage Epic pet was significantly more powerful than him in a toe-to-toe fight (with the Mage casting ZERO spells.)

[Finawin]

Watch how long and how much mana it takes a necro to kite Allizewsaur and how fast and how much mana it takes a mage to do the same.

I will gladly show you how shit is done when the time comes in Kunark. (Assuming I bother playing my Mage as much as my Paladin or Cleric by then)

[Finawin]

I just explained to you that I've played a mage through Kunark and know that is complete bullshit lol

[Blackbilly]

if you don't mind ruining some of your factions, enchanters using charm can level very fast in some spots. at lower levels i remember charming tiny miller and taking him around WK and clearing the zone.