An Open Letter To To0p

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/who all divinity = none.

Take a crack at how many of us that aren't around anymore are in that "didn't get banned but were pissed at how the admins handled the issue." Wasn't only 1 situation either. It was a few instances that went on for the better part of a year and culminated at that massive shitfest.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Take a crack at how many of us that aren't around anymore are in that "didn't get banned but were pissed at how the admins handled the issue." Wasn't only 1 situation either. It was a few instances that went on for the better part of a year and culminated at that massive shitfest.

you think the whole world is out to get you, don't you...

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you think the whole world is out to get you, don't you...

Yep. Me.

I'm not sure which guild you belong to because I don't know who the fuck you are, but I'm gonna take a crack and say TMO or TR considering the rather measly attempt at trolling.

Sinbad, is this one of your douchebags or does it belong to the other side?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep. Me.

I'm not sure which guild you belong to because I don't know who the fuck you are, but I'm gonna take a crack and say TMO or TR considering the rather measly attempt at trolling.

Sinbad, is this one of your douchebags or does it belong to the other side?

I thought so. You see, retard, the whole reason I brought up the fact "/who all Divinity = none" is because you brought up that you weren't the only one that left.

I was adding to your statement, not taking shots at your guild.

Fucking idiots these days.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep. Me.

I'm not sure which guild you belong to because I don't know who the fuck you are, but I'm gonna take a crack and say TMO or TR considering the rather measly attempt at trolling.

Sinbad, is this one of your douchebags or does it belong to the other side?

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought so. You see, retard, the whole reason I brought up the fact "/who all Divinity = none" is because you brought up that you weren't the only one that left.

I was adding to your statement, not taking shots at your guild.

Fucking idiots these days.

See? now that's how you troll!!!

[Szeth]

Divinity mad that their only chance at server dominance was to have everyone else bant.

Also sell me a brass knuckle bro

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As big of a twat that toop is -- and I doubt that anyone, even toop, can deny that -- it's also pretty ignorant to claim that the server's integrity wasn't shit on. You two dudes took a massive dump on it. You also seem to forget that it wasn't just the people who got caught cheating that left because of that stinky poo. So the idiot may be all vengeful-like, but his claims aren't exactly baseless.

Think I was one of the few that didn't mind speaking up about it, but trust me when I tell you that I most definitely wasn't the only one who left for the same reasons.

So Toop argued we have no integrity because we developed a .dll which led to him being banned.

You claim we have no integrity because the first wave of mq/seq bans were suspensions and punishments.

Make anti cheat ? No integrity. Use anti cheat? No integrity. First wave of bans made suspensions and punishments? No integrity. Every subsequent ban, permanent. No integrity.

Wrong thread to jump in, Skope. Especially considering I supported permanent bans of everyone involved.

If you don't play here anymore, let.. it.. the..fuck..go. Unless your intent is have people read this and not play here due to your bloodlust from the past. Is it?

[Skope]

It isn't. I actually think you guys have done really well since that shindig occurred and it looks like the server is quite healthy considering you opened R99. Honestly, and I do mean this very sincerely, you guys have steered the ship in the right direction since then.

My hate was never towards you but towards Rogean. I know you're either completely apathetic or hammerfistban whereas he's had his tangled in cobwebs more than once.

And don't straw man it, you and I have more smarts to use dipshit tactics. You approached hackers the same way for years and then decided to backtrack, going against your own rules. SEQ for who knows how long? Ban. No questions asked. The fact that there was an anti-cheat was great, but why the hell did you pussy out? Instead the hackers got to keep all their nifty gear they hacked for and all you did was give them a stern warning and clear their bank. It literally would have been better off to have hacked since '09.

And nilbog, that wasn't the only time you (the two of you) dun' goofed. It was just the straw that broke the camels back.

toop's argument isn't flawed, man. His reasoning for it is. But it isn't in your personality to admit that you dun' goofed. Instead you dudes have kept quiet and steered it on the right path, -- and I can't stress this enough -- I'm glad you did. It's probably a better server now than it was earlier this year despite the drop in population. The claim that I wanna see it go up in flames is doodypoop, but I can't see myself playing here again either

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

, but I can't see myself playing here again either

can we get a ton of people unbanned on the forums so he will stop posting here too?

[Fountree]

I think people were pissed at the fact that those using 3rd party programs weren't perma-banned, but I think that even more were disillusioned when the top raiding guild (and therefore example for the rest of the server) chose to invite those players back and then proceed to power-level them to 60 again in Skyfire within days.

It's like nothing ever happened!

You don't just apologize for being caught cheating and then move on from it. It's a serious damage of credibility for a group of people to accept that behavior...this is my opinion though.

Besides the cheating scandal, I think the credibility of the server is fine from a GM perspective; it's just how the top players have chosen to play that really damages the server. Examples of these actions have mostly been set by IB/TR as the leading guild: poopsocking, 15-on-spotting, training, zerging (2 of the top guilds teaming up who can independently kill trakanon killing all targets together and refusing to merge), falsely claiming special treatment by GMs on their homepage (special VP beta test post). Make no mistake: these things have been done by DA, TMO, we are not guiltless, but I believe they have been done only in response the situation that these guilds find themselves presented with in order to stay competitive.

One positive thing for the community lately has been the VP rotation proposed by TMO and accepted (surprisingly) by TR. I think everyone is happy with the way that is going and hope there can be more cooperation in the future at the end game: or at least raiding with some shred of dignity and respect for one's own tag.